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Re: All-new iMac features the M1 chip

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Post by gregoriol » Tue, Apr 20, 2021, 6:10 PM UTC

aaomidi wrote: post #89

gregoriol wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why? I think 720p is the maximum need for a front facing camera on any device. What would you want a 4K front facing camera for? Most video-conferencing wont even allow more than 480p to preserve bandwidth.

Because the less pixelated it looks the more natural a conversation flows? Are you asking why is it important to have a good camera for online video conferencing? Look at all the guides that teach people how to use DSLRs as their webcams.

If you are a professional video maker, you'll anyway have something better than the internal mic and camera. Not just for quality but also for position and practicality of moving it.

We are talking here about the average person's use-case

Re: All-new iMac features the M1 chip

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Post by ssijak » Tue, Apr 20, 2021, 6:10 PM UTC

Now that all the devices across the line have the M1 chips, it would be interesting to see on which other features will Apple differentiate the products across the line after the full switch happens.

Artificially limiting the RAM options in air/pro13 vs pro14-16 laptops? What else could be different except maybe 1-2 ports? Same for iMac 24 vs 27 coming in the fall? IPhone pro v's iPad pro difference is the big screen and a port?

It will also allow for faster iterations now that they are not dependent on Intel so I think the future will be even more interesting than this first release of M1.

Re: All-new iMac features the M1 chip

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Post by BitwiseFool » Tue, Apr 20, 2021, 6:10 PM UTC

JohnWhigham wrote: post #113

Ashanmaril wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, the idea with MagSafe is that if someone trips over it, it won't yank the device to the ground, so that still applies to stationary devices. But on the other hand, I'm not sure who has a desktop computer with cords draped across areas people are walking.

Which makes you wonder: why the hell did they remove it from the MBP...only to re-introduce it to another product 3 years later? Do different product teams just not talk to each other at Apple?

Jony Ive is no longer working at Apple and he was the God-King of industrial design. I suspect the MagSafe charger disappeared because of his efforts to make USB-C the one cable to rule them all. But after all the trouble with dongles and the butterfly keyboards I suspect more sensible heads have taken over and we can have these nice things again.

Re: All-new iMac features the M1 chip

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Post by otterley » Tue, Apr 20, 2021, 6:10 PM UTC

vmception wrote: post #81

Can someone explain the 8gb obsession (edit: 16gb is possible, but why not more) ? is there a real limitation with this architecture or are they just making a business decision so they can sell multiple models over 2-3 years instead of creating what the market wants immediately

There's no 8GB limitation. You can order one with 16GB memory.

Re: All-new iMac features the M1 chip

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Post by greedo » Tue, Apr 20, 2021, 6:10 PM UTC

dschuetz wrote: post #35

Why the chin bar? The could have easily removed it now that there is no logo on it, and the logic board footprint is now next to nothing. Their design decisions are just plain weird. Also, why is there no black version? No network ports? No USB type A ports? Really?

The chin is where all the SOC/logic board etc are.

Re: All-new iMac features the M1 chip

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Post by incrudible » Tue, Apr 20, 2021, 6:11 PM UTC

Toutouxc wrote: post #79

matsemann wrote: post #52

Why does a stationary computer need to be so thin that they can't fit an ethernet port and have to place it in the charger?

You will not like the answer if you have to ask, but here goes: It's beautiful.

> It's beautiful.

...yet it somehow still has that huge pointless "chin" at the bottom. I don't think that's beautiful. I guess it's "iconic", like the ugly notch on the newer iPhones.

I'd rather have the thing a bit thicker instead, because 99% of the time I'm not looking at it from the side.

Re: All-new iMac features the M1 chip

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Post by katbyte » Tue, Apr 20, 2021, 6:11 PM UTC

JohnWhigham wrote: post #113

Ashanmaril wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, the idea with MagSafe is that if someone trips over it, it won't yank the device to the ground, so that still applies to stationary devices. But on the other hand, I'm not sure who has a desktop computer with cords draped across areas people are walking.

Which makes you wonder: why the hell did they remove it from the MBP...only to re-introduce it to another product 3 years later? Do different product teams just not talk to each other at Apple?

They wanted USB-c charging and less ports I guess.

Here’s hoping the m1x/m2 ones bring it back

Re: All-new iMac features the M1 chip

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Post by slg » Tue, Apr 20, 2021, 6:11 PM UTC

manigandham wrote: post #23

> "iMac comes with a new power connector that attaches magnetically and a beautifully woven 2-meter-long color-matched cable." Magsafe for a stationary computer...

The lightness, size, wireless connectivity, and boot speed of this device makes it more likely to move around the house than a traditional desktop or even the recent iMacs. I could certainly imagine scenarios in which someone purchases multiple power cables, plugs them in throughout the house, and then brings the computer from their desk into the kitchen while making dinner or something. That is already a common practice with iPads and physically this is basically just an iPad attached to a stand.

Re: All-new iMac features the M1 chip

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Post by amlib » Tue, Apr 20, 2021, 6:11 PM UTC

websites2323 wrote: post #116

labster wrote: post #95

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Does this mean the power supply is external now, and sits on the floor or in the outlet? Because that case is awfully thin.

Yes. This is the case. And the versions that come with Ethernet have the Ethernet port on that brick.

So is it Power over Ethernet or Ethernet over Power? heheh

Re: All-new iMac features the M1 chip

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Post by orangecat » Tue, Apr 20, 2021, 6:11 PM UTC

Pet_Ant wrote: post #80

Ashanmaril wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, the idea with MagSafe is that if someone trips over it, it won't yank the device to the ground, so that still applies to stationary devices. But on the other hand, I'm not sure who has a desktop computer with cords draped across areas people are walking.

Cats. They walk everywhere. Especially keyboards

Indeed. I'm taking a break now because my cat decided my work laptop is nice and warm.