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How to Read Books When You Have ADHD

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Re: How to Read Books When You Have ADHD

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Not ADHD, but system for reading a lot is:

non-fiction: read chapters last to first / back to front. there is usually only one big idea and most of the book is the writer sounding it out themselves.

fiction: treat it like a piece of music. If it's not as good as music, let it go.

technical: start with a hypothesis and use the book as a reference tool for discovery.

spiritual: the bible and others are the thinking person's magic 8-ball, so if you are searching, you are searching when you should probably be listening.

Re: How to Read Books When You Have ADHD

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> Please, consult with a medical professional instead. I feel like this might be a dumb question, but what brand of medical professional should you go to? I've discussed with my GP, but those discussions usually don't have any meaningful advice.

(Since you called them a "GP", I'm guessing that you're in the UK) I mean, nobody can really tell you anything about your set of circumstances without you giving info. For some people under the NHS, with good doctors, they go to their GP and the GP listens to their reasons why and then refers them to a psychiatrist who can diagnose them formally, and they are given other interrim support in the meantime, along with t…

Thank you! Actually in the US (I didn't realize that term may have country connotation), but this advice is still very good and applicable.

Re: How to Read Books When You Have ADHD

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My solution is walking while I read. As a result, I end up walking for 4-6 hours at a time when I have a lot of reading to do. My biggest struggle is finding good e-readers that can handle all the reading formats I need, sync annotations, and have good connectivity. Still haven't found one. I'm not sure they exist yet. I also find myself saving things to read, because I struggle to read them while sitting, but never…

Any tips on how to read while walking?

Re: How to Read Books When You Have ADHD

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When it comes to long, difficult slogs, I prefer audiobooks. Mostly consumed when exercising outside in nature. Imagine reading Moby Dick, and the author goes into a long boring diatribe about 19th century cetology. If you're sitting at home reading a physical book, pushing through is a long, difficult process that requires continuous effortful willpower. But when you're running a 10km, at worst you just zone out uti…

As somebody with ADHD, I can't consume audiobooks at all. My mind just starts to wander 10 seconds in and eventually I realize I haven't been listening for the past half-hour. It's the same with talks or lectures on YouTube, though I've found that putting them at 2x speed helps to keep my attention. I really do need a book in text form, because it allows me full control over how quickly or in what order I consume it.…

I can only consume audiobooks if I'm doing something else. It seems I have to push my brain to the edge of activity it can absorb at once. Too little activity (just listening to an audiobook) and I get bored and distracted. Too much activity (listening while coding) and I don't do either well. Listening while doing mindless tasks like cleaning or exercising seem to be just the right amount of mental activity to keep me engaged well.

Re: How to Read Books When You Have ADHD

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> Please, consult with a medical professional instead. I feel like this might be a dumb question, but what brand of medical professional should you go to? I've discussed with my GP, but those discussions usually don't have any meaningful advice.

(US specific advice) I felt like my GP was really only good for getting the ball rolling: I asked her to refer me to a psychologist for testing and she did. To be honest, I think you could skip the GP step and just meet with any clinical psychologist to discuss with that person your concerns about ADHD. Their office should be able to tell you if they can do ADHD testing before you go in. Some psychiatrists may test a…

Here's where my misconceptions may start: it seem to me like meds are the only real treatment. This could be wrong.

IIRC, psychiatrists don't have that tool in their toolbox, so would a psychologist or neurologist be better?

And to be clear, I'm not just looking to get meds. But I'd like to avoid pinging in between different doctors. So if I can go to one that has all available tools at their disposal, that would seem the most straightforward.

Re: How to Read Books When You Have ADHD

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My trick: read books as if you’re doing research for your own writings. Sometimes I’ll actually publish an essay based on what I’m reading or just keep it for myself.

I think it gets at the same thing this article is getting at: have an objective for reading.

And btw, it works for other habits too. Having goals or milestones to strive for.

Re: How to Read Books When You Have ADHD

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I very much agree and share a similar experience. Struggling with ADHD is not a matter of not being able to focus. Part of the issue is directing and keeping attention on non-pleasant tasks that are stacked up against a brain chronically low on dopamine and norepinephrine transmission. As someone with diagnosed and treated ADHD, these articles are misleading. In my opinion it's dangerous to claim "Do this ONE behavio…

> Please, consult with a medical professional instead. I feel like this might be a dumb question, but what brand of medical professional should you go to? I've discussed with my GP, but those discussions usually don't have any meaningful advice.

In my case, I was referred to a psychologist who specializes in Adult ADHD. She then did a very comprehensive test (took 2 sessions of 3 hours), which included an IQ test: Wechsler Adult Intelligence Scale–IV (people with ADHD have very skewed results with usually bad results in processing speed and working memory), some questionaires and discussion.

I then was referred to a psychiatrist to discuss treatment and to an ADHD coach.

I do know people who have gotten a very quick diagnosis with a 20 minutes questionnaire but I wanted to actually be sure of the diagnosis and not being diagnosed with ADHD just because I somehow self convinced myself that I had it by reading online.

Re: How to Read Books When You Have ADHD

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I refer to myself as a fractal reader. I never start with the first page and never make it to the last. I open a book randomly and let my eye fall on something of interest. I may read for five minutes. I may read for five hours. I might pick it up again tomorrow. I might not touch it again for years (currently I'm "reading" an obscure tome on symbolism in 13th century French religious art that I know I haven't touched for decades). This obviously works better with non-fiction but, unburdened with plot and emotional investment, fiction can be interesting too...

Re: How to Read Books When You Have ADHD

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No. ADHD does not work this way for me, or people like me who are inattentive . This article is the equivalent of the time my primary care physician said, “just use a calendar”. You want me to maintain a set of documents? Buddy, without meds I can’t remember to brush my fucking teeth. I’m not exaggerating. ADHD is a spectrum, articles like this paint everyone with the same brush, which furthers many people to feel li…

Lots of addicted folk talk this way. I couldn’t function without ____, where ____ could be anything from coffee to amphetamines. That isn’t to say that you are abusing the medication, but that the dividing line is more arbitrary than most people understand. Many addicts are simply people with inadequate health coverage who are forced to self medicate, often with the exact same substances (adderal, benzodiazepines, pa…

I have a hard time without eyeglasses. Am I also an addict? ADHD medications are quite similar in their effect for those with this condition.

Re: How to Read Books When You Have ADHD

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There have been only a few things I have done with frequency in my life. Playing musical instruments in one of them. I have never been deliberate in practice. I have never sat down and made a schedule to practice playing the guitar or piano. But having a guitar always in visible line of sight has meant that I've practiced consistently everyday for years at a time so long as I have a guitar in the room. Books don't ha…

I agree 100% on the "line of sight" strategy being a really effective for developing music skills. I do the exact same myself. But I actually have had a bit of success with doing the same with books on a well-curated bookshelf in close proximity. It definitely works best for reference books, but almost anything that's a primary source works great for this. I often mark these books up with notes in margins, underlines, sometimes even sticky notes. If I have a lot to think about, I'll write that in a leuchterm notebook I keep on the same shelf, and just put the notebook page number in the book margins so I can go back later. When I go back to them - I'm not just able to build of of the original work, I'm able to build off of my own previous thoughts and easily recall my own situations where this applied. It's honestly really satisfying.

Some examples of books I keep going back to many times over and still find valuable as someone with ADHD:

- "The Art of War" by Sun Tzu - Any time I'm on any kind of competitive game kick or just thinking about competing in general, I always find something applicable to my situation. It's super short too.

- Wolfram's "A New Kind of Science" - it's massive and not something I could ever read straight through - but it's so dense with interesting applications of a super simple concept (and great images of those applications), I can jump between the chapters and get something interesting to chew on every time.

- "The Federalist Papers", and also "The anti-federalist papers": They're great from a "oh, so this is why America is set up like this" perspective, and also from a "Let's see how close or off these guys were from predicting the future on specific topics! (ie, economic and social predictions mostly). I also like that the English used is not actually terribly hard to understand, despite being older.

- "Learn to Read New Testament Greek" - Really great smaller intro book to Koine greek with good exercises inline. Greek is one of those languages that shows up in so many places, that it's really satisfying to see it in historical perspective and then learn to recognize it elsewhere. This book also scratches some of my personal interests around the history of early christianity.

I also do the same process for some religious texts (New Testament and Nag Hammadi Scriptures).

Just as you said, things that require pure diligence don't usually work out for people with ADHD, but some books out there are straight up great for dopamine if you can find them. I think the core tings to look for are:

1. Super information dense yet still good for jumping around and digesting small pieces. You shouldn't have to re-learn the core premise every time.

2. Should feel different and novel when you come back to them after time away. Some of the greatest writers, especially philosopher-types, express ideas in an intentionally ambiguous way. They ensure that a part of their intended meaning is accessible to anybody on first read - but the more complete interpretation requires some degree of context and re-reading. A reader's interpretations of texts like that change and grow based on their own life experiences, and as a result it often feels like you are finding new things each time.

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