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Such a shame. Anonymous had a lot of support for their attacks on Mastercard et. al. People, not just the programmers demographic, were seeing them as civil disobedience through the internet and hailing them for taking a right cause, namely against dirty, probably unconstitutional, certainly unethical attacks on wikileaks by numerous powerful groups. What's more, anonymous was seen as more powerful than such groups o…
Such a shame. Anonymous had a lot of support for their attacks on Mastercard et. al. People, not just the programmers demographic, were seeing them as civil disobedience through the internet and hailing them for taking a right cause, namely against dirty, probably unconstitutional, certainly unethical attacks on wikileaks by numerous powerful groups. What's more, anonymous was seen as more powerful than such groups o…
Give me a break. There are no ideals, and it's not a conspiracy. It's just a bunch of trolls on summer vacation. They are doing it because they don't really care to consider consequences when they choose to do something. Mystery solved by Occam's Razor. If you didn't know that lots of people like to do mean, pointless things all day for no reason, then welcome to 4chan, you may or may not enjoy your stay.
Why do people insist on saying this? Yes, it might be the most likely reason, but Occam's Razor is not a law. It's more of a saying. Why are people repeating it as if it is always true?
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Give me a break. There are no ideals, and it's not a conspiracy. It's just a bunch of trolls on summer vacation. They are doing it because they don't really care to consider consequences when they choose to do something. Mystery solved by Occam's Razor. If you didn't know that lots of people like to do mean, pointless things all day for no reason, then welcome to 4chan, you may or may not enjoy your stay.
I thought the actions of anonymous did have ideals. They were protecting free speech through disobedience. I've seen 4 chan. Its no more than the corner teenagers playing around. They may once in a while break a window, or inconvenience some person, but they do not go to steal banks, or hit a police officer. All that is metaphors obviously, perhaps imperfect metaphors. All I am saying is that I, we, do not know who o…
- I don't know what the mystery is here about "who or what Lulzsec is" or about "Anonymous is everyone." It's a bunch of teenagers on IRC, not a shadowy order of the shadows. It's pretty much the same guys every time, with people popping in and out.
- What does this have to do with Wikileaks, even tangentially? The fact that it's on a computer and the government doesn't like it?
- It's surprising that LulzSec has "connections" with Anonymous? The name of their group is "LulzSec" and their Twitter mascot is the 4chan monocle guy! Where did you think they came from, thin air?
This whole thing looks so completely ordinary to me that I don't see any reason to postulate foul play.
Such a shame. Anonymous had a lot of support for their attacks on Mastercard et. al. People, not just the programmers demographic, were seeing them as civil disobedience through the internet and hailing them for taking a right cause, namely against dirty, probably unconstitutional, certainly unethical attacks on wikileaks by numerous powerful groups. What's more, anonymous was seen as more powerful than such groups o…
Give me a break. There are no ideals, and it's not a conspiracy. It's just a bunch of trolls on summer vacation. They are doing it because they don't really care to consider consequences when they choose to do something. Mystery solved by Occam's Razor. If you didn't know that lots of people like to do mean, pointless things all day for no reason, then welcome to 4chan, you may or may not enjoy your stay.
That's the impression I have of a lot of contemporary political and business interests: "There are no ideals, and it's not a conspiracy. It's just business." Some do it for the lulz. Some do it for the bottom line.
LulzSec's tactics may be callous or juvenile, but they also somehow see a fitting expression for some of the inchoate disenchantment that I feel. When I pause to consider that I'm doing pretty well, all things considered, I can imagine the deeper chord they strike with others.
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Give me a break. There are no ideals, and it's not a conspiracy. It's just a bunch of trolls on summer vacation. They are doing it because they don't really care to consider consequences when they choose to do something. Mystery solved by Occam's Razor. If you didn't know that lots of people like to do mean, pointless things all day for no reason, then welcome to 4chan, you may or may not enjoy your stay.
Mystery solved by Occam's Razor. Why do people insist on saying this? Yes, it might be the most likely reason, but Occam's Razor is not a law. It's more of a saying. Why are people repeating it as if it is always true?
They're going to piss a lot of people off if they do this. Like every single UK citizen. Exposing security flaws and embarrassing govt is one thing, but to put un-redacted personal data online is quite another.
If this is true (and it seems it's probably not) then the people to get angry with are the UK government and their contractors Lockheed-Martin. WTF are we using a US-based company for anyway?
I'm leaning toward "hoax." Lulzsec has been reasonably competent writers so far, and the bizarre placement of "blissfully" makes that either incompetent or some kind of steganography. That, added to the lack of tweet, makes me doubt. Of course, it could still be some anon who actually does have the census data, and considers himself lulzsec-affiliated.
Why can't anyone bother to sign their press releases, it's not like it's the 60s.
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Give me a break. There are no ideals, and it's not a conspiracy. It's just a bunch of trolls on summer vacation. They are doing it because they don't really care to consider consequences when they choose to do something. Mystery solved by Occam's Razor. If you didn't know that lots of people like to do mean, pointless things all day for no reason, then welcome to 4chan, you may or may not enjoy your stay.
There are no ideals, and it's not a conspiracy. That's the impression I have of a lot of contemporary political and business interests: "There are no ideals, and it's not a conspiracy. It's just business." Some do it for the lulz. Some do it for the bottom line. LulzSec's tactics may be callous or juvenile, but they also somehow see a fitting expression for some of the inchoate disenchantment that I feel. When I paus…
I've been curious about this feeling as it certainly seems to me that you're not alone. What is it that they've done that makes them hit a chord with you? What I see when I look at lulzsec is mostly behvior that hurts a random collection of common people - like dropping emails, hashes, personal info of people who just happened to be unlucky enough to make an account with one of their many targets. Or DDOS on small indie software developers to prevent their customers from playing their games for a bit. Are you disenchanted with gamers and people who sign up for a book forum and such?
I totally understand the appeal of the Anonymous DDOS's and HB Gary hack for example, so the whole thing isn't lost on me. But I just find lulzsec idiotic and grating.
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Yes, let's secure our databases against O'Reillys and AT&Ts submitting their funny names! It's not characters that get you, it's lack of escaping or escaping for the wrong context (e.g. magic_quotes won't work for HTML) • For SQL use prepared statements exclusively (never let "oh, it's just a number so I don't need to" fool you) • Escaping doesn't differ between "trusted" and "untrusted" data (and these boundaries ar…
> For SQL use prepared statements exclusively (never let "oh, it's just a number so I don't need to" fool you) I cannot vote this up enough. Also, depending on what database you are using (eg Oracle) if you don't use prepared statements (aka bind variables) you are guarantee killing your DB performance. People have argued with me in the past that for things like sorting the data they cannot use bind variables. In tha…
Why not just pass numbers instead?
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There are no ideals, and it's not a conspiracy. That's the impression I have of a lot of contemporary political and business interests: "There are no ideals, and it's not a conspiracy. It's just business." Some do it for the lulz. Some do it for the bottom line. LulzSec's tactics may be callous or juvenile, but they also somehow see a fitting expression for some of the inchoate disenchantment that I feel. When I paus…
but they also somehow see a fitting expression for some of the inchoate disenchantment that I feel. I've been curious about this feeling as it certainly seems to me that you're not alone. What is it that they've done that makes them hit a chord with you? What I see when I look at lulzsec is mostly behvior that hurts a random collection of common people - like dropping emails, hashes, personal info of people who just…
The world is full of crazy laws and arbitrary rules which are frequently both boring and harmful. The only reasonable laws are ones that are purposeful and enforceable. If a law is stupid or if you can't enforce the law, we will break it at our whimsy, and if you don't like it, then you're the one that should change somehow, because anyone else could and probably should go break it too.
You could say that this is the grow-a-thicker-skin Internet philosophy. It's an idea that is appealing if you're young, moderately intelligent and computer-savvy, because your life has probably been filled with really stupid rules that are totally pointless and/or completely unenforceable, and you have no idea how to fix it, and you have probably never been on the other end of things.