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Post by spiritplumber »

1cvmask wrote: post #79

Some famous quotes of Prince Philip. Make your own judgement while you downvote his comments. “If you stay here much longer, you’ll all be slitty-eyed.” (to British students in China, during the 1986 state visit) “Do you still throw spears at each other?” (in Australia in 2002, talking to a successful Indigenous Australian entrepreneur) “There’s a lot of your family in tonight.” (after looking at the name badge of th…

My grandpa grew up during Fascism. He would say stuff like that. He also guided a Jewish couple to Switzerland through the Alps in early 1945 when he was a teenager. We're all products of our education, at least in part.

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Post by monkey_monkey »

smcl wrote: post #67
crossroadsguy wrote: post #32

Rest in peace! I have always felt strongly against monarchy. Especially against the British royal family, more so as I am an Indian. They never apologized for any of the massacres (Jallianwala is just one example) or pogroms committed at their behest and in their name. I do believe they are a disgusting symbol of colonialism, racism, subjugation. It is very disturbing that a good part of the world and an entire natio…

As a Brit I agree wholeheartedly with your first paragraph. Re your second, you are a much more mature and compassionate person than I am about this. I am completely ambivalent about his death. He was a very old man who lived a spectacularly privileged life and had little to no worries. I care not a jot whether he found peace.

Agreed.

I'm fairly sure many people of more actual worth die every day with no one here giving a shit. The monarchy is a relic that really should be dismantled.

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Post by monkey_monkey »

gadders wrote: post #126
smcl wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What might that be?

Vindictive, with an adolescent desire to shock and offend?

Or perhaps mature and non-sycophantic to a man who mostly lived a life of privilege.

Also, it's interesting that it's you that is casting personal aspersions...

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Post by dalbasal »

boomboomsubban wrote: post #11

As I can't be the only one curious, the South Pacific tribe that deified him plan to worship Charles now. To me, signifying that they are doing it for the publicity now. https://nypost.com/2021/02/27/islanders-who-call-prince-phil...

I wasn't part of the curious, and I don't know where/when defiance comes into the story but... There's enough in this article to make me curious. It feels a little mean to assume "only for publicity" without hearing some of these people commenting on it themselves.

“One of the oarsmen taking them ashore was a chap from Tanna called Chief Jack,” former Buckingham Palace spokesman Dickie Arbiter recalled to The Post. “He thought Philip was a warrior from a long time ago who had come down from the mountains and gone off to England in search of a bride."

This part of the world has some very unique culture, particularly their takes on politics, religion and such. At first glance, it's easy to be derisive of (literal, original) cargo cults. A more nuanced view takes you to interesting questions about the unique political philosophies of people with a deep island and mariners' history.

If they were wearing suits and commenting on these same ideas in a philosophy journal, in some cases it might be brilliant outsider thinking. A lot of it relates to an assimilation of outside political cultures outwardly, but with a totally unexpected internal meta.

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Post by [deleted] »

rataata_jr wrote: post #112
1cvmask wrote: post #79

Some famous quotes of Prince Philip. Make your own judgement while you downvote his comments. “If you stay here much longer, you’ll all be slitty-eyed.” (to British students in China, during the 1986 state visit) “Do you still throw spears at each other?” (in Australia in 2002, talking to a successful Indigenous Australian entrepreneur) “There’s a lot of your family in tonight.” (after looking at the name badge of th…

Everyone is product of their time. Give them the benefit of the doubt. He could be one of the reasons why we are all not speaking in German right now.

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Post by Eliezer »

mFixman wrote: post #92
zpeti wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

An interesting perspective I've heard is that she should have been more political in a few extreme cases. She is the head of state and her actual job should be to bring left and right together in the very controversial, almost unsolvable issues, and get them sorted out. She should really be like a couples therapist for political leaders. She never did this. She always stayed out of politics.

Can you think of a single case where this is true? King George VI publicly praised Chamberlain for appeasing Hitler and apparently preventing another world war. I'd be wary of making _any_ public statement of that sort as a royal with that kind of precedent.

People underestimate how much of an honest, plausible mistake this can be if you've lived through World War 1 but not World War 2.

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Post by rvz »

rataata_jr wrote: post #112
1cvmask wrote: post #79

Some famous quotes of Prince Philip. Make your own judgement while you downvote his comments. “If you stay here much longer, you’ll all be slitty-eyed.” (to British students in China, during the 1986 state visit) “Do you still throw spears at each other?” (in Australia in 2002, talking to a successful Indigenous Australian entrepreneur) “There’s a lot of your family in tonight.” (after looking at the name badge of th…

Everyone is product of their time. Give them the benefit of the doubt. He could be one of the reasons why we are all not speaking in German right now.

There you go. No wonder the radicals on Twitter think that no-one should be given a pass for being a product of their time and bringing dirt on anyone else they despise as the 'enemy'.

> He could be one of the reasons why we are all not speaking in German right now.

Yet there are some who are still suffering from VR sickness by playing Wolfenstein VR every day. I don't blame then for seeing Nazis everywhere and having to police everyone to check if they are a triple agent or a intergalactic space Nazi bot on Twitter.

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