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Greenwald: Yesterday Journalists Spread a Significant Lie All over Twitter

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Re: Greenwald: Yesterday Journalists Spread a Significant Lie All over Twitter

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Post by donohoe »

raarts wrote: post #113
donohoe wrote: post #90

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I stand by what I said. The media reports are based on extensive first-hand evidence, coverage, social media. I do not need MSM to tell me that an insurrection was happening. I see it for myself. And here you are down-playing, ignoring facts, ignoring the other points I made that counter yours, and generally being mis-leading. I think you should refresh your history. Often it can be opportunistic armed goons that top…

You see it for yourself, emanating from the sources that comprise your bubble. Which holds for everybody. And it's the diversity of those sources that determines how close your view matches the truth.

No. I saw it from the video leaked on Parlor.

I am aware of my bubble. Are you aware of yours?

Re: Greenwald: Yesterday Journalists Spread a Significant Lie All over Twitter

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Post by sennight »

donohoe wrote: post #130
sennight wrote: post #129

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> Maybe you can explain what you mean by "journalists" (quotes and all)? I don't know how to be any more clear than "can you call yourself that when the show is named after you?", without getting very specific. I'll make another generalization that you'll hate: "journalists" are incredibly vindictive. So I'll not be getting specific. > I don't think you have worked with journalists in the sense that I use the word. O…

We disagree then. Separate from all that, in terms of the phrase "can you call yourself that when the show is named after you?" - I have zero idea what this reference is - can you explain?

It isn't a sphinx riddle: look at the program name, then look at the name of the host...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_programs_broadcast_by_...

Re: Greenwald: Yesterday Journalists Spread a Significant Lie All over Twitter

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Post by nobodyandproud »

ishjoh wrote: post #87
donohoe wrote: post #8

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Gonna disagree there. I’ve worked with journalists (am not one) and it’s not BS as you seem to suggest.

I've worked with journalists and like anything there were different types of approaches to journalism like there are different approaches to any human endeavor. The ones with the most integrity started with an idea for a story but did their best to follow the evidence, and never discarded facts because they didn't fit their preconceived notions. The ones that people are typically frustrated with but get the most clic…

> The ones with the most integrity started with an idea for a story but did their best to follow the evidence, and never discarded facts because they didn't fit their preconceived notions.

It costs a magnitude more (at least) for this type of journalist, as opposed to the latter.

You can get lie peddlers of all stripes for free.

Re: Greenwald: Yesterday Journalists Spread a Significant Lie All over Twitter

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Post by Blahah »

refurb wrote: post #118
Blahah wrote: post #67

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What a strange take. If someone made up a story about me and then someone else asked if it was true, I'd tell them to get lost, not validate the ridiculous attempt at shaping a narrative by engaging with it. It's very very common to "no comment" every false story, because engaging (even with a denial) creates legitimacy for the falsehood.

No. This is not a reasonable approach whatsoever and is not what is typically done. If someone says “are these emails real?” you say “no”. Case closed.

Unless I knew the emails existed I would say "I have no idea what you're talking about, and I'm not interested in talking about it." But more succinctly, with just two words maybe. Something along the lines of "no comment". It's not possible for someone to have made even a cursory glance the history or ubiquity of the phrase "no comment" and honestly claim that it's either not a reasonable approach or not typically done. This just silly.

Re: Greenwald: Yesterday Journalists Spread a Significant Lie All over Twitter

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Post by bifrost »

_v7gu wrote: post #15
bifrost wrote: post #4

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That'll never happen most likely. I live in San Francisco, you can get screamed at and assaulted for "getting along" with people.

Or even being the wrong race

That does seem to be happening more and more, although street violence is escalating due to a failure of city government and the DA's office.

Re: Greenwald: Yesterday Journalists Spread a Significant Lie All over Twitter

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Post by bifrost »

smartician wrote: post #97
bifrost wrote: post #4

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That'll never happen most likely. I live in San Francisco, you can get screamed at and assaulted for "getting along" with people.

Sounds like you have a different idea of what "getting along" means?

ok, what do you think "getting along" means?

Re: Greenwald: Yesterday Journalists Spread a Significant Lie All over Twitter

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Post by matchbok »

barbacoa wrote: post #112
vannevar wrote: post #110

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The question is if giving money to a politician's son is bribery since they indirectly benefit. If that were true, every politician's close relatives would have to stay in some kind of economic suspended animation while they serve in office. But other sensible measures, like prohibiting a President or his children from maintaining control of a global business empire while he is in office, are probably warranted in li…

>If that were true, every politician's close relatives would have to stay in some kind of economic suspended animation while they serve in office. The key is money in exchange for political favors. While I'm not going to comment if Joe Biden's situation fits the definition of criminal bribery, it is very similar to the situation with South Korean President Park Geun-hye who went to prison for 20 years for bribery rel…

Quite sad people are still pushing this Hunter Biden thing.

By sad, I mean pathetic.

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