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I bought 300 emoji domain names from Kazakhstan and built an email service

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Re: I bought 300 emoji domain names from Kazakhstan and built an email service

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> I setup an email forwarder to route all email sent to .ws to my regular email address. >Eagerly I typed ben@.ws into the "to" field of gmail and hit send. > The email never hit my inbox. It was lost forever in cyberspace. I think this was just caused by Gmail now working when a message is sent and received at the same account. It just disappears. [0] It’s really annoying, it’s not part of a spec, it’s just gmail. I…

I'm confused, as I'm able to send and also forward messages from myself to myself just fine in gmail. How would I recreate this? Does it only come up for emails coming from outside of gmail?

Re: I bought 300 emoji domain names from Kazakhstan and built an email service

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Emoji domains are a lot of fun for sure.

Shameless plug: A few years ago I discovered them for the first time and made https://.to which listed all available single-emoji domains for the .to extension.

Within a few days hundreds of emoji domains were registered and very few were left. I think I netted the registrar 10,000s of $$$ in days. (I got a nice commission myself as well of course).

Edit: okay so HN doesn't like emoji domains – here's a blog post that goes into more detail with the actual URL: https://marc.io/emoji-domains

Re: I bought 300 emoji domain names from Kazakhstan and built an email service

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post #97

This service should come with a big fat warning that the emoji email addresses should never be used for anything remotely serious. Running an email service is not, by any means, a 'tiny project'. I would never pay, nor rely on an e-mail service that is effectively a one-men side project. I just took a quick check on the 'mailbox' domain (I can't paste emoji here on HN). There seems to be no DMARC, no MTA-STS and no T…

This service doesn’t support even sending, just receiving. So I don’t think there is DKIM even considered.

It says send support is 'coming soon' on the website, so expectations are already set for those paying for this service.

Re: I bought 300 emoji domain names from Kazakhstan and built an email service

#135
post #6

> I setup an email forwarder to route all email sent to .ws to my regular email address. >Eagerly I typed ben@.ws into the "to" field of gmail and hit send. > The email never hit my inbox. It was lost forever in cyberspace. I think this was just caused by Gmail now working when a message is sent and received at the same account. It just disappears. [0] It’s really annoying, it’s not part of a spec, it’s just gmail. I…

Should be in your sent folder right?

Re: I bought 300 emoji domain names from Kazakhstan and built an email service

#136
post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What you say is entirely true. But in practice, this is for fun, no one gonna use their emoji email for anything important. But it's great to have an emoji email to give to medium when they ask for it? Isn't that great.

> no one gonna use their emoji email for anything important I disagree. We, as technical HN crowd, know not to do this this. But any non-technical person who sees 'get a next-gen email addresses' being advertised for 9,99/year will expect more. A lot more. Do not underestimate how naive and demanding consumers can be.

Thank you for open my mind. I see your point now.

Re: I bought 300 emoji domain names from Kazakhstan and built an email service

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There's a big downside to using .kz in that the registry has a policy (as per https://nic.kz/rules/ ) that .kz hostnames must relate to "Internet resources" located on hardware and software located within the territory of Kazakhstan. I think the OP is OK as it appears the IP addresses of both the A and MX records are located within Kazakhstan, but something to be aware of if you think registering a .kz is a fun idea(…

> There's a big downside to using .kz in that the registry has a policy (as per https://nic.kz/rules/ ) that .kz hostnames must relate to "Internet resources" located on hardware and software located within the territory of Kazakhstan. Any country TLD is a potential risk that most western "entrepreneurs" blissfully ignore. Just a month ago notion.so had troubles with it's domain because .so belongs to Somalia, and So…

Although .gl isn't much of a risk, as Google has some presence in Denmark and relations to the country.

But you shouldn't use TLDs of countries with which you have no affiliation.

Re: I bought 300 emoji domain names from Kazakhstan and built an email service

#138
post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

KZ is the shorthand for Konzentrationslager, i.e. concentration camp.

Ok, and .kz is the ccTLD for Kazakhstan. You think people can't realize the difference?

If you asked 100 people in Germany(!) what "KZ" stands for the result would be something like 95 say "Konzentrationslager", 5 say "I don't know" and 0 "ISO code for Kazakhstan".

Re: I bought 300 emoji domain names from Kazakhstan and built an email service

#139
post #6

> I setup an email forwarder to route all email sent to .ws to my regular email address. >Eagerly I typed ben@.ws into the "to" field of gmail and hit send. > The email never hit my inbox. It was lost forever in cyberspace. I think this was just caused by Gmail now working when a message is sent and received at the same account. It just disappears. [0] It’s really annoying, it’s not part of a spec, it’s just gmail. I…

I don't know if it's related to this, but gmail deduplicates emails based on the Message-Id. This is entirely broken behaviour and causes trouble for us with mailing lists (eg. a mail is sent to the inbox and a mailing list, or sent to two mailing lists). Another in the list of reasons not to use gmail.

Re: I bought 300 emoji domain names from Kazakhstan and built an email service

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post #112

The customer's words echoed in his mind. 'robert at lightbulb emoji dot kz, but with a real lightbulb emoji.' The clerk had registered thousands, maybe tens of thousands of e-mails into the Nordstrom Rack Nordy Rewards program, and he had seen it all, but this, this was something entirely new. This wasn't the single letter username or the overly sexual address or the gmail address with the plus sign, all mildly inter…

I use an email address that ends in .io and the amount of people that still ask me ".io? are you sure that's correct?" never ceases to amaze me.
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