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Re: DJI FPV

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Post by 0_____0 »

joezydeco wrote: post #119
0_____0 wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Boasting about flying beyond line of sight without a spotter in a cluttered residential neighborhood isn't going to score you many points among the drone enthusiast crowd.

Heh, true. Thanks.

No worries. If there's just one thing I want to get across though, it's that as drone operators, we are collectively responsible for how the broader community views us and drones.

Random drones floating through neighborhoods is sketchy from a safety standpoint but also it tends to upset people, who often think that any drone they see is spying on them. Just a consideration.

Personally I like to fly around abandoned buildings and decrepit structures. Lots of interesting flying to be done and cool vids to be taken, and there's nobody around to complain :)

Re: DJI FPV

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Post by djrogers »

moooo99 wrote: post #40
Dave_Rosenthal wrote: post #4

There has been a huge divide in the drone world between high performance first person view (FPV) drones capable of acrobatics and the "tripod in the sky" type drones that companies like DJI have popularized. The former has been very DIY and the latter have attracted companies to build integrated solutions. This new drone from DJI brings an truly staggering amount of innovation and integration to the FPV space: - Low…

> - Low res analog video -> high res digital video For Hobbyists, the high res digital video is definitely a great development and makes for a better flying experience overall. Real racers still complain about the latency, but they are not the target of the digital FPV system and the new DJI FPV drone always. But the high res is nothing unique to the DJI FPV drone. DJI started offering the Digital FPV system a few ye…

> The DJI FPV drone seems like a relatively fragile drone. The most annoying part is, that there is apparently no real way to fix anything yourself besides the props.

That seems to be untrue - according to the verge:

"If you’re like me and wreck this drone, you can replace the following items yourself: the top housing shell, propellers, the gimbal / camera module, and the arms. "

[1]https://www.theverge.com/22308345/dji-fpv-review-first-perso...

Re: DJI FPV

#133

Post by Leherenn »

bri3d wrote: post #114
dmitrygr wrote: post #15

50Mbit, 28ms latency wireless link at 12km distance, and on a battery budget, eh? I'd love to hear more, I love science fiction.

This has been out for a few years in the form of the "DJI FPV" system, Goggles and Air Unit, for DIY drone construction. It's not science fiction - the latency and bitrate taper off a bit at range, but it genuinely works. If you tear down the hardware, it's using an Imagination IE1000 802.11ac frontend, Skyworks amps, and a custom DJI image processor chip (marked P1). So the air protocol probably looks somewhat like…

They use frequency hopping also as far as I know.

Re: DJI FPV

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Post by dylan604 »

dagmx wrote: post #89
Naomarik wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

DJI digital video has been out for quite awhile now for hobbyists to include in their custom builds. Transmission range is not a valid point because a clean analog video signal and Crossfire outpaces DJI enormously. The 20 min flight time is a lie, Joshua Bardwell measured 10 minutes hovering. That's extremely easy to surpass on typical light weight 5 inch freestyle drone with a 1300mah battery that cost a fifth of t…

I think the biggest thing is accessibility. DJI continues to break down the preexisting knowledge required to get into a space. For better or worse, because there's a lot of irresponsible drone flyers as a result too, but this product makes fpv flying much readily available for those who want to try it without investing the time/effort to learn about how to do it better with other setups

>without investing the time/effort to learn about how to do it better with other setups

I do not believe that this is a good thing at all.

Re: DJI FPV

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Post by jessaustin »

sneak wrote: post #128
Dave_Rosenthal wrote: post #4

There has been a huge divide in the drone world between high performance first person view (FPV) drones capable of acrobatics and the "tripod in the sky" type drones that companies like DJI have popularized. The former has been very DIY and the latter have attracted companies to build integrated solutions. This new drone from DJI brings an truly staggering amount of innovation and integration to the FPV space: - Low…

The product is amazing, but I'm sad that the first amazing integrated fpv product out is coming from DJI. It makes perfect sense, but I hate giving them money as each DJI purchase is a positive reinforcement for their abhorrent approach to consumer privacy. I'll probably get one, but continue to complain loudly online that every DJI product, including the offline ones, requires an account and email address and regist…

Is there a drawback to lying on this registration? One-time email, fake PID, etc.? Assume one doesn't live in PRC...

Re: DJI FPV

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Post by qqqturing1 »

too bad you can't fly drones in germany with all the regulations. For FPV drones you have to have a second person "spotting" the drone and keeping line of sight. Complete bureaucratic nonsense.

Re: DJI FPV

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Post by jessaustin »

nitrogen wrote: post #124
wepple wrote: post #50

I’d love for someone to build an overIP bridge for this, so I can sit on the couch at home and fly through the Grand Canyon. I’d happily pay a reasonable sum for it. I wonder if it could be done using a Stadia controller and chrome cast?

sit on the couch at home and fly through the Grand Canyon And ruin it for everyone who actually spent the effort to go there in person.

This will be the reason they will start letting people bring shotguns to national parks.

Re: DJI FPV

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Post by bri3d »

Leherenn wrote: post #133
bri3d wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This has been out for a few years in the form of the "DJI FPV" system, Goggles and Air Unit, for DIY drone construction. It's not science fiction - the latency and bitrate taper off a bit at range, but it genuinely works. If you tear down the hardware, it's using an Imagination IE1000 802.11ac frontend, Skyworks amps, and a custom DJI image processor chip (marked P1). So the air protocol probably looks somewhat like…

They use frequency hopping also as far as I know.

I don't think so, at least not outside of the channel bandwidth - based on the FCC filings and the observed behavior, initialization seems to happen on 5839MHz (Channel 8) and then the device hops to a user-selected channel, where it seems to stay.

Re: DJI FPV

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Post by mynameisvlad »

dylan604 wrote: post #135
dagmx wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the biggest thing is accessibility. DJI continues to break down the preexisting knowledge required to get into a space. For better or worse, because there's a lot of irresponsible drone flyers as a result too, but this product makes fpv flying much readily available for those who want to try it without investing the time/effort to learn about how to do it better with other setups

>without investing the time/effort to learn about how to do it better with other setups I do not believe that this is a good thing at all.

Why is gatekeeping FPV drones so important to you? Opening it up to new potential users some of which will want to eventually invest in better setups seems very much like a good thing.
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