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Re: Apple buys a company every three to four weeks

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can you name a business that is completely unrelated to Apple or Amazon and would not see significant benefits from being absorbed?

For apple :- a farm, cattle station, cement factory, brick maker, carpets, upholstery, chicken farm the list goes on

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Re: Apple buys a company every three to four weeks

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This sort of perception about community bias comes up with every $BigCo. Then the comments complaining about it get highly upvoted, undermining the supposed observation. I think it has more to do with how our emotions subtly influence how we weight what we read. We're more likely to notice the cases we dislike/disagree with and let the ones we like/agree with glide by without affecting our impression of the community…

Part of the concern is Apple spends a ton of money marketing themselves as "pro-privacy and pro-consumer, more than those "other" $BigCo's". I've seen people say they're immune to advertising and then beat the Apple drum many times.

>Apple spends a ton of money marketing themselves as "pro-privacy and pro-consumer, more than those "other" $BigCo's"

I mean they also seem to deliver functionality that is pro-privacy, since of course their money doesn't depend on violating your privacy. Two of the other BigCo's business models are built on violating your privacy, and the other one certainly makes more money on its retail efforts by doing so.

So the scary quote marks up there seem a bit weird given the circumstances.

Re: Apple buys a company every three to four weeks

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For apple :- a farm, cattle station, cement factory, brick maker, carpets, upholstery, chicken farm the list goes on

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New improved version, only gives you the runs if you eat it holding the wrong way....

Re: Apple buys a company every three to four weeks

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Because right now price is about the only criteria really considered today. You can stifle innovation and competition as long as the prices stay low.

> price [for consumers] is about the only criteria really considered today. Blame the past 50 years of GOP-dominated Supreme Court jurisprudence, which has steadily eroded antitrust enforcement. Vote for the Democratic party in Senate and Presidential races, and something might happen to fix this in about 30–40 years when the Court turns over enough to give Democrat-appointed Justices a majority.

The weakening of antitrust enforcement wouldn't have happened without the support of liberal economists like Thurow and Galbraith, and D judges have until very recently voted the same way as R judges.

Fortunately, changing the antitrust criteria 'merely' requires convincing Congress, which is doable within a saner timeframe.

Re: Apple buys a company every three to four weeks

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So ~15 companies a year? That doesn't sound outrageous for a company with billions and billions of dollars in the bank, and billions more coming in every quarter. edit: If anything there's probably immense pressure on Cook to buy buy buy more stuff. I don't think anyone inside Apple wants to have a repeat of stuff like old Apple maps or other products that just languished and died internally while external companies…

> That doesn't sound outrageous

how it doesn't? it does!

Re: Apple buys a company every three to four weeks

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They wouldn't extend an offer to you in this case. Acqui-hires have no upside for employees and barely any for founders. Some small return to investors to sign off on the acquihire. Usually most people still have to interview for their jobs.

The hypothetical case I was describing was when the employees (say, 1-5 people) are also the sole shareholders. Supposing I write a _killer app_ with a friend and get a patent for it - and it ends up with tens of millions of users quickly - and Apple really wants it for themselves at short notice (too short a notice for them to try to recreate the software code, sic their legal team to invalidate the patent and marke…

You’re describing an acquisition including IP and not an acquihire. I’m not sure how much Apple cares about idiosyncrasies of founders for potential full acquisitions but I imagine they matter quite a bit for a run of the mill acquihire.

Re: Apple buys a company every three to four weeks

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They wouldn't extend an offer to you in this case. Acqui-hires have no upside for employees and barely any for founders. Some small return to investors to sign off on the acquihire. Usually most people still have to interview for their jobs.

Acquihires do often have employee upside, in the form of large stock-based compensation grants or bonus payouts, typically spread over a vesting period of several years. There's no point in the acquihire if you don't retain the employees, and relative to the cost to acquire the company these payouts aren't huge. You're right that often people do have to interview to remain employed (and thus to receive these benefits…

In my experience with most acquihires, your “upside” is basically a new hire package at the mid-high end (sometimes I see low) of external offers + a potentially expedited interview process.

Re: Apple buys a company every three to four weeks

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So ~15 companies a year? That doesn't sound outrageous for a company with billions and billions of dollars in the bank, and billions more coming in every quarter. edit: If anything there's probably immense pressure on Cook to buy buy buy more stuff. I don't think anyone inside Apple wants to have a repeat of stuff like old Apple maps or other products that just languished and died internally while external companies…

It’s fine... Until Apple buys the software tools your working with and then kills the support for running on anything outside the Apple ecosystem.

Re: Apple buys a company every three to four weeks

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Apple is the biggest monopoly in the US right now. Hands down. They get to get away with everything! Google, Microsoft, Facebook, etc. all get hammered on the daily in the US and in the EU. But, Apple is a golden child that can do no wrong. Do you people not realize that they've created a peer-pressure device in the form of the iPhone by packaging SMS and iMessage into 1 app called "Messages"? How is that even legal?…

Keep downvoting me, fanboys! Long live the resistance!

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Re: Apple buys a company every three to four weeks

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There's no point in buying an unrelated business that you're going to leave operating as usual - you might as well just invest that money on the stock market instead, or pay it out to your shareholders. So presumably if a company is buying a solution to X then it believes it can gain a competitive advantage by integrating X into the rest of its business. Given that, I would've thought that the earlier you buy the thi…

can you name a business that is completely unrelated to Apple or Amazon and would not see significant benefits from being absorbed?

In economic theory there is no benefit to diversification (which is what a company does when it absorbs another company) unless there are organisational improvements shared between the companies. If the acquired company is truly completely unrelated there would be no benefit at all as Apple isn't able to improve the running of an unrelated company. Being bought out by Apple might be a nice outcome for any company's shareholders (as they might get a premium on the their share prices), but technically there would be no improvement to the business in terms of expected revenue.
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