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Re: I Miss My Bar

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Post by [deleted] »

LandR wrote: post #86
forgotmypw17 wrote: post #7

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It's a great opportunity for non-commercial spontaneity, choosing not between "what bar to go to", but which direction to walk in, and really taking in reality.

In my country, the UK, you can be fined for going a walk to a park if it isn't the closest park to your home. Basically if the police want to be arses to you they can ask you where you are going and why you are where you are, if they dont like your answer you can be fined. There was an article in the BBC a while back about two friends that met up for a walk in the country side, they drove to the meetup point. It wasn…

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Re: I Miss My Bar

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Post by meheleventyone »

RalfWausE wrote: post #31

I think the psychological toll of the lockdowns in different countries is highly underestimated. I myself have no real economical shortcomings due to the lockdown, but even as a person who is normaly a total loner and who can spend weeks completely alone on a excessive hiking trip i am slowly going crazy... For my wife, who is a highly social character, its even worse. And i am not the only one in this mindset... wha…

I find this very interesting as well. I definitely have felt way more anxious during the lockdowns we've had. There's definitely a pervasive atmosphere which is very draining even though objectively my family have had a very easy time of things.

Re: I Miss My Bar

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Post by dep_b »

I need some downtime from people in order to recharge my social battery. I really enjoy being around people but I just can't do it 24/7. Having your whole family around all of the time is really stressing since my social battery is empty and stays empty.

This is where an office or a commute happens, by the time you get home you really missed everybody, at least when everything is going right ;)

Re: I Miss My Bar

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Post by oarsinsync »

kortilla wrote: post #96
Glawen wrote: post #79

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never really understood this severance. You can drink without getting drunk. I like to drink good beverages, but I don't like being drunk, so I just take a few glasses.

> You can drink without getting drunk. No shit. The problem is that when you get into the habit of drinking 2-3 drinks every night you’re bordering substance abuse. Also, “a few glasses” is enough to be arrested for drunk driving, so you might not be the caricature of a drunk but you’re drunk nonetheless. Severance is a great way to understand your relationship with alcohol. The only reason it even seems weird is bec…

> The problem is that when you get into the habit of drinking 2-3 drinks every night you’re bordering substance abuse

If you're drinking 3 bottles of beer a night, 7 days a week, you're likely consuming 6 units of alcohol a day, or 42 a week.

The NHS (UK health service) recommends less than 14 units a week, spread across at least 3 days (so less than 5 units a day, 3 days a week, tops).[0]

Drinking 3 beers a day 7 days a week results in you drinking more than 3 times the maximum weekly recommended allowance.

I think we're largely in agreement about how one can drink, but 2-3 drinks a day is not 'bordering' on substance abuse from a health perspective. Societally we've normalised drinking to this level, but it's not healthly, and is absolutely substance abuse.

It took me tracking my alcohol consumption daily before I realised that my 1-2 beers a weekday / 4-6 beers a weekendday was so far beyond what is healthy, that I stopped entirely for 6 months. I've since backslid back into 1-2 beers a day. I know it's wrong, but most of life is right now anyway that it doesn't seem like that big a deal anymore.

[0] https://www.nhs.uk/live-well/alcohol-support/calculating-alc...

Re: I Miss My Bar

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Post by heikkilevanto »

I tried the background sounds for a while. Didn't really make me feel like my usual bar - none of the regular customers there, no good discussions, no meeting new people. After a while I didn't hear the noise at all, it just blended in the background. Then I switched it off, and realized how much it had been filling. Fun experiment.

Re: I Miss My Bar

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Post by cassalian »

vultour wrote: post #105
_uwiz wrote: post #53

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Maybe we should make your preferred hobbies illegal with strict enforcement. Fuck you, buddy.

Yes, if they’re helping a deadly virus spread during a pandemic then go ahead. Except unlike you I’m going to accept that, because I don’t want to be stuck at home for another year while morons continue to spread the disease everywhere.

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Re: I Miss My Bar

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Post by Glawen »

kortilla wrote: post #96
Glawen wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

never really understood this severance. You can drink without getting drunk. I like to drink good beverages, but I don't like being drunk, so I just take a few glasses.

> You can drink without getting drunk. No shit. The problem is that when you get into the habit of drinking 2-3 drinks every night you’re bordering substance abuse. Also, “a few glasses” is enough to be arrested for drunk driving, so you might not be the caricature of a drunk but you’re drunk nonetheless. Severance is a great way to understand your relationship with alcohol. The only reason it even seems weird is bec…

What I meant was that you should appreciate the quality and forget about quantity. At 2-3 glasses every night, I bet that you just drink the same thing over and over, so yes I agree with you that you are bordering abuse. I used to do this with whisky, but nice bottles are pricey so I drank cheap whisky and quickly got bored. Now I buy expensive bottles and appreciate it from time to time.

Alcohol is embedded in our society because it is the traditional way for people to let off steam.

Re: I Miss My Bar

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Post by _uwiz »

cassalian wrote: post #136
vultour wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, if they’re helping a deadly virus spread during a pandemic then go ahead. Except unlike you I’m going to accept that, because I don’t want to be stuck at home for another year while morons continue to spread the disease everywhere.

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Thank you.

I don't know what I have to say to explain this to these people. Maybe it's not quite explainable.

Restrictions haven't pushed their buttons in the same way. The only way to get this across is to describe all of their needs disappearing. But it doesn't hit the same, and it seems petty.

So it goes.

Re: I Miss My Bar

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Post by simplestman »

RalfWausE wrote: post #31

I think the psychological toll of the lockdowns in different countries is highly underestimated. I myself have no real economical shortcomings due to the lockdown, but even as a person who is normaly a total loner and who can spend weeks completely alone on a excessive hiking trip i am slowly going crazy... For my wife, who is a highly social character, its even worse. And i am not the only one in this mindset... wha…

As an introvert, I really enjoyed it. I do love bars and miss going there but not a big deal. We had tons of happy hours on Zoom. Yes Zoom is not perfect replacement for in-person socializing but it is not that bad.

On other hand, my wife really didn't like socializing on Zoom. So she didn't socialize as much. Also she really misses in-person gatherings. And my biggest issue been trying to cheer her up.

Re: I Miss My Bar

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Post by forgotmypw17 »

slaymaker1907 wrote: post #114
forgotmypw17 wrote: post #38

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It's a great opportunity to connect with non-humans: mushrooms, plants, insects, birds, mammals. When is the last time you have even looked at one of them closely, let alone formed a close relationship? It is something we humans have done our entire existence, until recently, yet many today go their entire life without such an experience.

I know you're trying to be helpful, but these kinds of posts just come off as incredibly condescending and out of touch. Lack of nature is not considered to be actual torture, but complete isolation from other people (solitary confinement) is.

I apologize if that came off as condescending. That is exactly what I mean, however, you are writing off non-human companionship and interaction as worthless, when it can bring endless joy and comfort when humans are not available.
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