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Facebook shuts popular stock trading group amid GameStop frenzy

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Re: Facebook shuts popular stock trading group amid GameStop frenzy

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Are there any good decentralized message boards? Biggest question seems to be how does the community deal with spam (and spam taking a large amount of space). But other than that I could see a lot of people willing to host nodes for free.

Email mailing lists/discussion groups.

Decentralized and already familiar to everyone from the HN crowd to grandma.

Re: Facebook shuts popular stock trading group amid GameStop frenzy

#133

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Re: Facebook shuts popular stock trading group amid GameStop frenzy

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Okay so I completely agree but I want to add something to what’s going on Half the fun of WSB is that it is enormously offensive. The foundation of the community is that a forum talking about stock investing strategies is, at its heart, really dumb. It’s harder than most people can manage to evaluate all the “DD” flying around and any advice other than playing it safe (r/investing) is stupid to take from a rando on a…

If there is any adult content (in the form of swear words) it is moderated and marked NSFW on wsb. If that was the issue, all Facebook had to do was issue a warning and make the group adults only or something like that. This outright ban is just insane.

Which seems to be a good indicator that the motivation wasn't any form of adult content or NSFW which they have tools to deal with. It was more reactionary

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It might be fishy but there is also a lot new interest in WSB and everything related. So much interest that /r/WSB voluntarily shut themselves down for a while because they couldn't handle the moderation situation. So why it's happening now can more multifaceted than the more conspiratorial reasons. Even increased media attention is enough for someone to act -- The Hackernews community uses that all the time to get a…

Sure. I don't mean that it's unequivocally part of a conspiracy. But like I said, It can't go unaddressed. This isn't a Hacker news story about a banned app. It's international news, and the news isn't about WSB's (admittedly) bad language.

It's international news -- so the spotlight is on. Probably most of the Internet is unsavory and nobody cares because nobody knows.

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Fence-sitters like you are who gave them this power in the first place. Free speech is not "ban who you don't like but allow what I like." It's all or nothing.

Please don't be rude and blameful. Also, freedom of speech cannot be all or nothing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance

Agreed, the wallstreetbets guys are bullying innocent rich people and they have to be stopped.

Re: Facebook shuts popular stock trading group amid GameStop frenzy

#137

Are there any good decentralized message boards? Biggest question seems to be how does the community deal with spam (and spam taking a large amount of space). But other than that I could see a lot of people willing to host nodes for free.

Some people might remember Hotline https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hotline_Communications Independent forums might be due for a comeback as well, with modern technological amenities

Your hosting can be attacked too, so that's another complication.

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Whoever gets to decide what's "violence and terrorism groups" can just remove whoever they want. So your stance, combined with centralization, immediately leads to tyranny.

Do you think Judges who interpret laws should also be abolished? Because there is a lot of ambiguity in the law and we need the justice system to interpret and carry out laws. Are you for Anarchy? otherwise, people in position will decide a lot of things for you including truth.

I'll take the median judge with multiple appelate courts above them over a 26-year old overworked unaccountable 95 IQ [x] studies graduate.

If facebook moderators wore fancy clothes and hit things with gavels on camera when making judgements, the situation would rapidly improve.

Re: Facebook shuts popular stock trading group amid GameStop frenzy

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Okay so I completely agree but I want to add something to what’s going on Half the fun of WSB is that it is enormously offensive. The foundation of the community is that a forum talking about stock investing strategies is, at its heart, really dumb. It’s harder than most people can manage to evaluate all the “DD” flying around and any advice other than playing it safe (r/investing) is stupid to take from a rando on a…

Discord has since taken the stance of helping the mods, instead of permaban. I liked hearing that news earlier today. https://www.theverge.com/2021/1/28/22254339/discord-r-wallst...

Do i read that article right and this "Helping the mods" is an euphemism?

They banned all bad words and image memes (due to lack of ability to check the content with a bot) and told the mods to rigorously enforce compliance with Discords standards or the group gets removed again. Maybe they helped configuring the mod-bot ...

Re: Facebook shuts popular stock trading group amid GameStop frenzy

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> It's all or nothing. This is demonstrably mistaken. Look, here's an entire Wikipedia article on limits to free speech in the US: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_free_speech_exce... And if you're talking about the ill-defined philosopical concept of "free speech", that's also mistaken. Free speech is a subservient value in pursuit of free society; if an instance of speech would do damage to the freedoms…

> Free speech is a nuanced topic, and not as cut-and-dry as you have been led to believe. It is, actually. Your edge cases are disingenuous (or maybe you've just misunderstood them). It's like saying killing someone is a nuanced topic. Sure, there's moral complexities with things like abortion, war, or euthanasia, but, generally speaking, killing someone is pretty black-and-white wrong. Free speech is the same way. L…

> but, generally speaking, killing someone is pretty black-and-white wrong.

Ironically, this has left me speechless. Surely you realize the inherent contradiction of arguing that something is emphatically all-or-nothing, and then turning around and moderating your position with a strategically-placed "generally speaking"? Which is it? Is it nuanced or isn't it?

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