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Arrest warrant issued for ex-Florida data scientist Rebekah Jones

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Re: Arrest warrant issued for ex-Florida data scientist Rebekah Jones

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Post by tyingq »

LocalH wrote: post #121

>After she was fired, Jones started her own online COVID-19 dashboard. But she said Saturday that she may no longer be allowed access to computers, the internet or other electronic devices as a condition of her release from jail pending trial. In the modern day, with so much that is online or involving computers, this should be considered unjust punishment, the likes of which should be reserved only for child moleste…

It is curious that this sort of restriction is possible. I don't think I could pay most of my monthly bills without the internet, for example. I assume there's also many jobs that require home internet.

Re: Arrest warrant issued for ex-Florida data scientist Rebekah Jones

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Post by chillwaves »

wl wrote: post #128
spoonjim wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In some countries, a surprise raid of your home means “we think you have hostages in your basement” or something at that level.

You're going to see surprise raids in any country whenever the police believe there's evidence to be found that would be destroyed or tampered with if the suspect had advance notice.

That doesn't explain them training guns on her when she was clearly unarmed and not a threat.

Also didn't they wait something like 20 minutes before breaching the residence?

Re: Arrest warrant issued for ex-Florida data scientist Rebekah Jones

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Post by fdschoeneman »

MisterBastahrd wrote: post #3

How many other instances are out there where authorities "can't say what someone is charged with" until they're in custody. This smells like a CYA deal with DeSantis and his partisan bungling of the COVID crisis.

Probably millions of instances. I think I'd prefer the state not announce what it is charging people with. Once she's charged, she should be able to say so. But consider the possibility one is falsely accused of rape. In my case, I'd want the charge kept private until the courts sorted things out. Or until I was falsely imprisoned at least.

Re: Arrest warrant issued for ex-Florida data scientist Rebekah Jones

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Post by joering2 »

plussed_reader wrote: post #68
ashwal wrote: post #10

What a weird story that keeps getting weirder. I am a data scientist who spent June in Tallahassee helping coordinate state-wide COVID testing with FDEM (Florida Department of Emergency Management) and state health officials. Everyone I worked with was pretty dedicated to getting the roll out right (including the governor and his appointees too..) My data & work was spread far and wide with no issue - but just a pers…

Your chosen terminology is a little strange to me(weird); would you by chance be an American? This is a textbook example of the Government(State of Florida) targeting an individual for their speech. But then again, Do-Nothing DeSantis is the successor to Senator Red Tide Rick. Par for the course with Florida, sadly.

+1. Also for that raid alone where public saw SWAT team members putting machine guns in her children faces, she most likely will settle and get $10MM+ settlement in less than 10 years. Of course our taxpayers money. DegenerateSantis will be then on his next high paid gig. Watch and see.

Re: Arrest warrant issued for ex-Florida data scientist Rebekah Jones

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Post by trasz »

overscore wrote: post #126
mdoms wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd suggest you have a look at how policing is done outside of USA. A raid on someone's home is almost never justified - it would take highly exceptional circumstances to make a "normal" police force perform like that.

Raids are common in almost every European country - which in general have "normal" police forces - where the police believe someone might destroy evidence.

Only if the charges are heavy enough, and even then it usually happens in civilized way, not like SWAT.

Re: Arrest warrant issued for ex-Florida data scientist Rebekah Jones

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Post by sp332 »

LocalH wrote: post #121

>After she was fired, Jones started her own online COVID-19 dashboard. But she said Saturday that she may no longer be allowed access to computers, the internet or other electronic devices as a condition of her release from jail pending trial. In the modern day, with so much that is online or involving computers, this should be considered unjust punishment, the likes of which should be reserved only for child moleste…

If she were providing a bogus view of the pandemic, there could be consequences for public health. That doesn't seem to actually be the case as far as I can tell, but the magnitude of the punishment seems about right for the alleged crime.

Re: Arrest warrant issued for ex-Florida data scientist Rebekah Jones

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Post by hvac »

orangecat wrote: post #18
MisterBastahrd wrote: post #3

How many other instances are out there where authorities "can't say what someone is charged with" until they're in custody. This smells like a CYA deal with DeSantis and his partisan bungling of the COVID crisis.

Please define "partisan bungling" given that Florida has a lower death rate(1) and faster vaccine rollout(2) than the US average, while keeping schools open in accordance with expert recommendations. (1): https://91-divoc.com/pages/covid-visualization/?chart=states... (2): https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/covid-vaccine-tracker-glo...

> Florida has a lower death rate

To be fair, Florida also has some of the lowest latitudes in the US.

Re: Arrest warrant issued for ex-Florida data scientist Rebekah Jones

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Post by thaumasiotes »

anonu wrote: post #81
Pfhreak wrote: post #6

This is an obviously politically motivated use of state violence, and I hope this case goes in her favor.

How can you pass judgement without knowing all the facts? Clearly there's still more to this story...

> How can you pass judgement without knowing all the facts?

From the article, and quite shocking:

> The Florida Department of Law Enforcement confirmed there is a warrant for Jones’ arrest but said it cannot disclose what charges she faces until she is in custody.

Re: Arrest warrant issued for ex-Florida data scientist Rebekah Jones

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Post by grzm »

clcuc wrote: post #129
MisterBastahrd wrote: post #3

How many other instances are out there where authorities "can't say what someone is charged with" until they're in custody. This smells like a CYA deal with DeSantis and his partisan bungling of the COVID crisis.

What does CYA mean in this context? Sorry about the ignorance.

cover your ass

Re: Arrest warrant issued for ex-Florida data scientist Rebekah Jones

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Post by eganist »

prepend wrote: post #94
eganist wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Which of those degrees qualifies her as a data scientist capable of contravening WHO recommendations? Literally all of her research involved gathering and communicating relevant insights from vast and disparate data sets, which is the role you just described. > Having done both myself, I can attest that they are very different types of work warranting very different training. She's educated as a data scientist spec…

> Literally all of her research involved gathering and communicating... Pedantically pointing out that, literally, this is a false statement. It’s ok to accurately reflect her work and that advanced degrees are hard without assigning incorrect and hyperbolic characteristics.

> Pedantically pointing out that, literally, this is a false statement.

My statement is so generic as to be true in the context of fields involving scientific research. And that's in essence the point: that's what data science is in the end.

This isn't an attempt to incense those with Data Scientist in their job title or job description, but it's why so many STEM folks can easily find homes in Data Science without formal education on the topic.

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