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The first blue pigment discovered in 200 years is now commercially available

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Re: The first blue pigment discovered in 200 years is now commercially available

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I live in pride of my mercury-compound amalgam. You can choose to live in fear. "Numerous other organizations have also publicly declared the safety and effectiveness of amalgam. These include the Mayo clinic,[21] the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA),[22] Health Canada,[23] Alzheimer's Association,[24] American Academy of Pediatrics,[25] Autism Society of America,[26] U.S. Environmental Protection Agency,[27]…

For better or worse, the dentists I have gone to in recent years don't use it any more. I have some old mercury fillings and at least one newer resin one. Your link is interesting. It seems like the arguments against mercury amalgam being a problem include: 1) organizations like you listed saying don't worry 2) obvious scammers making a living blaming everything on fillings, even nonexistent ones 3) only 5% of people…

Here (DE) they stopped using it for fillings where it'd be visible in social settings.

Re: The first blue pigment discovered in 200 years is now commercially available

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They are not toxic though - they are just so reactive that they corrode tissue.

Why does that matter? The point is you can combine elements and create compounds that are drastically different to the components with different properties. Obvious one is water. H - explody. O2 - burny. H2O - puts out fires, quenches your thirst, no longer a gas, not very reactive.

Because corrosive is way different than toxic. Particularly, acid/base corrosion can and will be neutralized by our body once sufficiently diluted. Toxic compounds, especially heavy metals, stay toxic even if diluted.

Re: The first blue pigment discovered in 200 years is now commercially available

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Isn't indium used everywhere in solder as a less toxic replacement for lead?

AFAIK only in specialised low-temp solder, like the one sold by Chip-Quik to desolder sensitive components.

That's Tin-Bismuth eutectic, forming a 99 C (a hair below boiling water) eutectic when mixed with lead.

Re: The first blue pigment discovered in 200 years is now commercially available

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These people really didnt think about how people are going to pronounce their pigment? YInMn - what a monster of a name. In the olden days at least people gave colors great names that were easy to prounounce and provided them personality. Ultramarine, prussian blue.. Even vantablack has a nice rhythm. It's nice as techinical name, I guess, but I'd hope they have some better brand name they are going by.

I'll propose: Rare Blue.

Re: The first blue pigment discovered in 200 years is now commercially available

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Why does that matter? The point is you can combine elements and create compounds that are drastically different to the components with different properties. Obvious one is water. H - explody. O2 - burny. H2O - puts out fires, quenches your thirst, no longer a gas, not very reactive.

Because corrosive is way different than toxic. Particularly, acid/base corrosion can and will be neutralized by our body once sufficiently diluted. Toxic compounds, especially heavy metals, stay toxic even if diluted.

Again, so what?

The point being made is that you can take dangerous elements and then create a compound that doesn’t share the properties of the elements.

So a counter argument is to show that’s not true for the elements that make up the compound for this blue dye.

Re: The first blue pigment discovered in 200 years is now commercially available

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I don’t get it, how would you even discover a pigment? How would you know what you’re looking at is novel?

Read up just a little bit on art history and you'll get it.

It wasn't that long ago that a blue pigment—anything at all that was blue and that would be durable over time—was extraordinarily rare and valuable.

Re: The first blue pigment discovered in 200 years is now commercially available

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Very insightful. Will be interested to know of your preferred 12 colour palette.

I use a Yellow Ochre Light, Pthalo Blue, Titanium White, Zinc White, Transparent Oxide Red (for blocking), Pthalo Green and Perylene Red :) Although, you can just use Richard Schmid's palette, replace all the toxic junk with modern pigments and you're good to go. The thing is to stick with the palette forever for many decades so that your paintings have a cohesive harmony.

I notice that the Windsor & Newton watercolour series has nothing called Perylene Red, but it has a nice looking colour named Perylene Maroon that seems similar.

Re: The first blue pigment discovered in 200 years is now commercially available

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I've bought several hundred tubes of paint in last 20 years. I've seen artists gravitating towards more expensive paints as a sign of better pigmentation which is completely misplaced. Pricing of pigments is largely a complex equation including marketing by paint manufacturers to pose Cadmiums and Chromiums as "premium" quality paints. The truth couldn't be farther from that. Modern synthetic pigments are superior, s…

See: > In economics and consumer theory, a Giffen good is a product that people consume more of as the price rises and vice versa * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giffen_good

Thanks for educating me on this! It is super interesting that there is a formal theory behind it.
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