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Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay online is 'embarrassing'

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#131

Ironic the article is in Vice considering one of its founders (Gavin McInnes) also founded the Proud Boys.

But if he left vice 13 years ago citing "creative differences" and founded the PBs eight years after that is it really irony? Or just a simple case for reading between the lines?

Re: Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay online is 'embarrassing'

#132
post #89

I got the sense while crawling data from their API that the engineering quality is poor at Parler. Dates were represented as strings in "YYYYMMDD" format (so today would be "20210113053923") instead of UNIX timestamps, certain fields were duplicated for no reason (e.g. every object would have an identical "id" and "_id" key), counts of impressions/comments/etc would be the display strings rather than raw numbers (so…

I think the display strings thing is because exact number of impressions etc is slightly sensitive information. The whole site was "gamed" from the start, but providing exact vote counts makes it easier for other people to game. I guess. Don't really know, but I do believe that the numbers given by reddit, for example, are exact, but fake. Fuzzed a bit. HN also hides some of this, or behaves misleadingly, your downvo…

They would display numbers less than 1000 as-is, and only start adding the "k" and "m" prefix after the 4-digit and 7-digit threshold was crossed.

Re: Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay online is 'embarrassing'

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post #117

Also embarrassing: https://www.vice.com/en/article/n7vqew/the-hacker-who-archiv... > donk_enby had originally intended to grab data only from the day of the Capitol takeover, but found that the poor construction and security of Parler allowed her to capture, essentially, the entire website. That ended up being 56.7 terabytes of data, which included every public post on Parler, 412 million files in all—including 150 m…

> GPS coordinates—unlike most social media sites, Parler does not strip metadata from media its users upload, which, crucially, could be useful for law enforcement OH SHI- This is a colossal mess up, on epic proportions.

Due to the people involved, Parler is almost certainly not a honeypot setup by the FBI, CIA, or some other government organization. However some of the details that have leaked out over the last week made me wonder how little of the site would have changed if that was the intended purpose.

Re: Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay online is 'embarrassing'

#134

Also embarrassing: https://www.vice.com/en/article/n7vqew/the-hacker-who-archiv... > donk_enby had originally intended to grab data only from the day of the Capitol takeover, but found that the poor construction and security of Parler allowed her to capture, essentially, the entire website. That ended up being 56.7 terabytes of data, which included every public post on Parler, 412 million files in all—including 150 m…

Someone put together an animated heatmap of Parler photo locations along the Mall throughout the day of 1/6: https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/kvx88n/oc_...

Re: Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay online is 'embarrassing'

#135
post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I appreciate businesses like Cloudflare that stay neutral and just provide their service. I don't want to have to think about the political beliefs of a CEO before deciding to use a service.

This entire comment thread can be asterisked with “for now”. GoDaddy kicked off AR15.com with no reason at all, they were fine with the content... until the moment they weren’t. The problem has always been a TOS that is selectively and interpretively enforced. It’s just popular this week. > I don't want to have to think about the political beliefs of a CEO before deciding to use a service. ffs no joke! I was embarras…

> GoDaddy kicked off AR15.com with no reason at all

No, not no reason at all: "In response to content complaints on the ar15.com website, our team investigated and discovered content on the site that both promotes and encourages violence. As a result, we informed the site yesterday that they have 24 hours to move the domain to another registrar, as they have violated our terms of service," GoDaddy told the Washington Examiner.

FWIW, ar15.com is hosted on AWS. GoDaddy was just the domain registrar. I gather ar15.com was temporarily removed from the GTLD name servers because they didn't move to a new registrar quickly enough.

Re: Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay online is 'embarrassing'

#136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Since when is "not enough moderation" grounds for terminating hosting? Amazon does a terrible job of moderating their own catalog and reviews. Should their ASNs be blackholed? You can read the comments on any given CNN article, and see racist statements. Should CNN reporters be barred from attending press conferences?

It is grounds for terminating hosting when AWS has repeatedly asked you to remove said content AND they've offered to help you migrate you off of AWS. See court filings - https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.wawd.294664... Or for specific sections, see https://twitter.com/questauthority/status/134916216569825280...

I was skimming through it and couldn't really find any smoking gun about them missing any hard deadlines for content removal. If you take a site like Reddit, it can take days before all violent / threatening language is removed from a given thread. A lot of the content AWS uses as exhibits is borderline, so its not as simple as approve some auto filter. I am assuming Parler just took on the scale of weeks to months to fail to remove some bad stuff but it would great to see that in writing to confirm.

Re: Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay online is 'embarrassing'

#137
post #30

In contrast, Gab actually owns their own ASN and announces their own routes[1]. Much harder to deplatform. I'd expect no less from a YC alum! [1] https://bgp.he.net/AS42651

But sad to think that YC spawned someone like him as well.

Re: Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay online is 'embarrassing'

#138
post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I set up an account this evening and it’s unusable due to loading times. They’ve added 1.7m in 4 days which may explain it. Be interesting to see how long it takes them to scale

I've been impressed by Gab

Why? Seems like the level of discussion is not all that far away from the level on Parler.

Re: Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay online is 'embarrassing'

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post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So to be clear, you're opposed to platforms removing any of those things? Child pornography and spam should remain up? If someone doxxes you, platforms should just leave it?

No, we have legal and moral obligations when there are immediate dangers and harm. Simple expressions are different. Look, I wish the world were pure and good. That no one had ill intent. But we know that we cannot have good things because a very small fraction of a percentage are bad people. I don’t like having very bad people destroying freedom for everyone else. I believe people have a right to express unpopular e…

>No, we have legal and moral obligations when there are immediate dangers and harm.

Piratebay exists largely to circumvent the law. They therefore can't really use the law as a guideline for what to censor. They have to make active choices of what illegal content is allowed and what isn't.

Re: Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay online is 'embarrassing'

#140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This entire comment thread can be asterisked with “for now”. GoDaddy kicked off AR15.com with no reason at all, they were fine with the content... until the moment they weren’t. The problem has always been a TOS that is selectively and interpretively enforced. It’s just popular this week. > I don't want to have to think about the political beliefs of a CEO before deciding to use a service. ffs no joke! I was embarras…

Shut the fuck up and do our job hasn't really worked well once the capitol was attacked, those people were organizing in public in many social media platforms (not just Parler!) and people working at those social media companies shut the fuck up and did their job. And then that happened. Are you saying that staying silent is the answer once you have people organizing to take down the government? How will your busines…

I get your point, but technically Trump ia current goverment ;)
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