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Re: Smart spaces will fine petrol car owners illegally parking in electric bays

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Post by bobthepanda » Mon, Jan 04, 2021, 5:54 PM UTC

SteveGerencser wrote: post #122

lazylizard wrote: post #117

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its really weird for someone used to the faster type of gas station. why would people want want to spend any more time than absolutely necessary around petrol fumes...

Because there are no real fumes. No more than anywhere else, and there is more likely to be a gas station with a restaurant (pizza/chicken whatever) in it than a restaurant at all. Small 'town' down the road has one gas station and one cafe. The cafe is only open for lunch. So a lot of the old timers gather at the gas station where they can get a coffee, a snack, or even a chicken dinner, and sit and chat with friend…

I have a hard time imagining this. Is the cafe outdoors or is this something like a mini service area?

Re: Smart spaces will fine petrol car owners illegally parking in electric bays

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Post by kwhitefoot » Tue, Jan 05, 2021, 6:42 PM UTC

ogre_codes wrote: post #82

gambiting wrote: post #15

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I'm still eagerly awaiting explanation on how this is going to work with terraced houses where there's about 40 houses on each side and people park how and where they want, and most importantly where the local council barely has enough money to fix the worst potholes. But suddenly they are going to dig up a 300 year old street to put down enough cabling and charging points for every car. My question is "with what mon…

> My question is "with what money". If people want to charge their electric cars and live in a place where it's difficult to do so, that is their problem. Most places with super dense housing like you describe are probably in fairly dense urban areas where other forms of transportation are probably better regardless.

I take it you don't live in the UK. At least a third of the population already lives in accommodation that does not include any off road parking. They haven't carelessly moved there knowing that they wouldn't not have somewhere to charge an electric car and they certainly will not be able to afford to move just to be able to park the car off the road so they can park it.

And 'other forms of transportation' are not 'better regardless', merely better for some limited purposes.

Re: Smart spaces will fine petrol car owners illegally parking in electric bays

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Post by kwhitefoot » Tue, Jan 05, 2021, 6:43 PM UTC

gambiting wrote: post #24

chrisseaton wrote: post #21

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Can lampposts be adapted?

Sure, but there's 4-6 of them on the street and probably 40-50 cars. That will work in short term, but not in 10+ years.

Surely ten years should be long enough to work on a better solution? Why does everyone seem to expect perfection overnight?

Re: Smart spaces will fine petrol car owners illegally parking in electric bays

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Post by kwhitefoot » Tue, Jan 05, 2021, 6:48 PM UTC

jfk13 wrote: post #13

kwhitefoot wrote: post #8

Would be better to spend the money that this will cost on fitting a simple domestic socket in every parking bay. That we even my Tesla will gain 13 km per hour of charging.

Running power -- even just 13A power -- to every parking bay, not to mention ensuring those "simple domestic sockets" are safe to use in all weather conditions, will probably make this quite a bit more expensive than you think.

Outdoors rated 13A sockets are readily available in every electrical supply shop along with the necessary RCDs. We have similar things here in Norway and have done for at least forty years and we get much worse weather than the UK. I mean they can be buried in the snow, never seems to be a problem.

In case you wonder why we had them they were for car engine preheaters. Handy when it is -20C and snowing.