I still remember driving through some small town in Arizona 10 years ago, and I couldn't find a single non-obese person there. Not just overweight, full on obese. Parents, kids, everyone. It was the one of the most bizarre experiences I've had, as a visitor. Cities are not that bad though, but I'm sure many rural parts are close to 100%.
More than 73% of American adults are overweight or obese
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True, I started weightlifting for three months and my BMI went into overweight territory. I had an athletic build both before and after. Probably good for a lot of people but weightlifting really puts it into question. It's not like weightlifting is something only few men can do; most men can weightlift. Then they end up having healthy body fat levels, but end up with BMI in the overweight category. If something as s…
Lifting heavy weight doesn't mean you're fit. You can still be very overweight and bloatmaxxed This guy is strong as hell but he isn't healthy at all https://youtu.be/1LsIQr_4iSY
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#133Isn’t it strange how the only way to eat healthy food in America is to cook it yourself? Every fast food restaurant is unhealthy. Most sit down restaurants are unhealthy. I can pay someone to change my oil, I can pay someone to cut my grass, but for some reason cooking healthy food, the most essential service, is difficult to find. Why has our economy failed us in this sector specifically?
> Isn’t it strange how the only way to have a meaningful discussion on the internet is to spend hours researching and filtering through a sea of clickbait/porn/fakenews/gossip?
> Every social media website is unhealthy. Most well-known forums are unhealthy.
I think the unfortunate reality is that we will continue to slip into these patterns until we stop responding to them. It's a self-perpetuating cycle. We all need to strive to find out what healthy means and crawl towards that. Unfortunately things will continue to spiral out of control to the degree they need to for us to change, and sadly some people will be lost along the way.
Other possibilities: * Food is now abundant. The whole idea of healthy food is relatively new. Only the very rich used to be overweight, but now even the poorest can afford enough food to become obese * American food is heavy and fatty as a matter of tradition. Burgers, fries, fast food are all cultural artifacts most commonly associated with the US. * Multiple generations of Americans have been raised in front of the television and have deep seeded emotional imprinting from fast food marketing (happy meals!)
Re: More than 73% of American adults are overweight or obese
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Our firmware back from the ape era contains instructions to enjoy anything sweet and/or fatty. Of course, this worked back in the Paleolithic, when you found something sweet and/or fatty several times a year. It becomes a bad loophole for metabolic diseases when sweet and fatty things are everywhere and cheap.
There are plenty of other countries where sweet and fatty things are cheap, yet they don't have the same obesity rate as the US.
In my country, never particularly known for being thin, I can see a definitive negative development since the 1990s. Morbidly fat teenagers were basically nonexistent then. Now you meet them all the time.
IMHO the worst offenders are soft drinks, which have zero satiating effect and consist of a mass of liquid sugar. Coca-cola used to be expensive here in the 1990s (compared to a median wage), now it is cheaper than beer, our typical lower class drink.
Re: More than 73% of American adults are overweight or obese
#135BMI isn't a reliable indicator to gauge obesity. For example, Tom Brady at 6' 4" and 225 lbs is considered overweight, which is obviously not the case. That being said, as an American, it really did shock me how fit the majority of people were in Italy when I visited there for the first time last year. This New England Journal of Medicine chart really does a good job of showing that America has gotten heavier over th…
As anecdata - I'm on the opposite end of the physical activity spectrum to Tom Brady, I'm also 6'4" and the heaviest I've been is about ~210 lbs. I was definitely starting to feel "a bit too big" at that, and would confidently say I'd feel overweight at 225 lbs, so the scale doesn't feel massively miscalibrated to me.
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#136Fringeing overweight, it has taken me years to remove 10kg and keeping it off is a constant battle. I used to be as thin as a rake. Folks, its a mostly one-way ratchet. If you put a one-way walk into any system, and let it run free, what direction do you think things will trend, even if the pace of movement is a crawl?
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#137BMI has no scientific validity and never did. Huge numbers of people are "overweight" by BMI standards, which is why even the armed forces don't use it (the Marine Corps height/weight standards allow for heavier individuals at each height, which is pretty telling since were the most physically demanding branch and geared toward being light naval infantry).
Re: More than 73% of American adults are overweight or obese
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Every time BMI is mentioned someone has to come up with an example of a body builder or fit athlete who has a high BMI. Yes, everyone realizes this already, and nobody who is in that position is going to be mislead into thinking they are obese. Sure, it would be great if everyone could do a caliper test or a water displacement test, but that isn't ever going to happen, and BMI is a trivial and good enough place to st…
You're not wrong that BMI is okay enough of a metric for most people. But, in terms of a metric that is even more simple (one simple measurement tool instead of two), accounts for athletic builds, and is arguably more predictive of health outcomes (example: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1071369/ ), it would be great if we could standardize on waist-to-hip ratio instead of BMI.
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"Body positivity" is -- inadvertently for the most part -- insidious. Of course, don't make fun of overweight people for being overweight, don't be an asshole. However, making people people believe that they can eat whatever they want, can be obese and still healthy doesn't help at all. It might make you feel nice, but it is very destructive and unhelpful in the long run.
I’m sorry but you can’t just make broad sweeping claims like this with literally zero supporting logic or evidence: > However, making people people believe that they can eat whatever they want, can be obese and still healthy doesn't help at all... it is very destructive and unhelpful in the long run. First of all, I can’t think of a single body positivity activist who says “you can eat whatever and you’ll still be he…
Re: More than 73% of American adults are overweight or obese
#140BMI isn't a reliable indicator to gauge obesity. For example, Tom Brady at 6' 4" and 225 lbs is considered overweight, which is obviously not the case. That being said, as an American, it really did shock me how fit the majority of people were in Italy when I visited there for the first time last year. This New England Journal of Medicine chart really does a good job of showing that America has gotten heavier over th…
It goes the other way too. You might have a BMI in the "healthy" range, but actually have an unhealthy amount of body fat [0]. Of course, nobody puts themselves in this category. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_mass_index#/media/File:Co...
A lot of non-cardio gym time and protein eating.