If you were able to do this. Fuck you for waiting for a public health crisis to do this.
Do you know how many families you've impacted because of citizenship?
I'm glad you're doing it now but I'm still pissed for the missed opportunity.
Covid: France rewards frontline immigrant workers with citizenship
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#132Earlier quoted context omitted.
> It must remain Jewish or our identity will be erased. Splendid, so this does not apply to European identity and culture? If the unlimited immigration that you demand happens in Europe, we'll have Islamic states in no time. I'm sure that'll be totally fine and beneficial for Israel... The inconsistencies are mind boggling.
I recognise the benefits of diversity and I'm excited by the prospect of a more vibrant and multicultural experience that this natural migration will enable across Europe. All I'm "demanding" is that white supremacists are no longer allowed to oppose this through outdated xenophobic institutions, including contrived citizenship requirements. Fortunately, most European governments and the EU share this view and have t…
Such racial hatred is only kosher against white native Europeans.
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#133Earlier quoted context omitted.
Using absolute numbers probably isn't the smartest idea. Canada has more immigrants per population than USA.
And that is their decision. I think it is best for each country to decide for themselves, based on their culture, objectives, history, and values. France has a way of doing it, Canada has a way of doing it, China has a way of doing it, and the US has a way of doing it. One size fits all is least applicable when it comes to nation states.
And that decision can be criticized.
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#134As a person that leans towards socialism. I want to understand from someone who leans towards capitalism, the reluctance with immigration. We have people who will travel large distances for a potential benefit (i.e risk takers), who like the articles mentioned, are happy to work hard. This is the ideal characteristics of an entrepreneur or early employee or a start-up. More labour, lowers labour costs. What is the re…
There needs to be a balance. Unlimited immigration is unsustainable (Europe can’t support 3bn people), so there have to be some limits. Also, I value my culture (not in the “food & language” sense, but in “enlightenment values” sense), and have no interest in admitting more people who don’t value or respect this culture. Finally, you need to correctly read the situation. Most pro-immigration people support it to lowe…
> Unlimited immigration is unsustainable (Europe can’t support 3bn people), so there have to be some limits.
If it were just about population, why is there no concern with natural population rise due to birth rates?
> Also, I value my culture (not in the “food & language” sense, but in “enlightenment values” sense), and have no interest in admitting more people who don’t value or respect this culture.
Surely then it would be possible to institute a "cultural test" where people who do agree with "enlightenment values" are free to immigrate. I also think it is incredibly questionable for europe to lay claim to "enlightenment values", as if those are a single unified system of values that belongs solely to europe and is matched by modern european states.
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#135Earlier quoted context omitted.
There needs to be a balance. Unlimited immigration is unsustainable (Europe can’t support 3bn people), so there have to be some limits. Also, I value my culture (not in the “food & language” sense, but in “enlightenment values” sense), and have no interest in admitting more people who don’t value or respect this culture. Finally, you need to correctly read the situation. Most pro-immigration people support it to lowe…
> Unlimited immigration is unsustainable (Europe can’t support 3bn people), so there have to be some limits. If it were just about population, why is there no concern with natural population rise due to birth rates? > Also, I value my culture (not in the “food & language” sense, but in “enlightenment values” sense), and have no interest in admitting more people who don’t value or respect this culture. Surely then it…
> If it were just about population, why is there no concern with natural population rise due to birth rates?
Probably because in most/all Western countries birth rates are at or below replacement rates, so the only reason the population is still rising is due to immigration.
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#136Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Unlimited immigration is unsustainable (Europe can’t support 3bn people), so there have to be some limits. If it were just about population, why is there no concern with natural population rise due to birth rates? > Also, I value my culture (not in the “food & language” sense, but in “enlightenment values” sense), and have no interest in admitting more people who don’t value or respect this culture. Surely then it…
> If it were just about population, why is there no concern with natural population rise due to birth rates? Probably because in most/all Western countries birth rates are at or below replacement rates, so the only reason the population is still rising is due to immigration.
Do you honestly believe that if the population was rising due to birth rates, that there'd be whinging about the economic impacts?
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#137Earlier quoted context omitted.
The US has the largest immigrant population in the world and one of the highest immigration rates among developed countries. I resent how casually blatantly false anti-US comments like this get voted up without any data to back them up, almost like it's a fad to talk-down America. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_the_United_Stat...
Using absolute numbers probably isn't the smartest idea. Canada has more immigrants per population than USA.
We're still one of the highest. We dont need to be #1 per capita to prove we're not "anti immigrant."
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#138Earlier quoted context omitted.
And that is their decision. I think it is best for each country to decide for themselves, based on their culture, objectives, history, and values. France has a way of doing it, Canada has a way of doing it, China has a way of doing it, and the US has a way of doing it. One size fits all is least applicable when it comes to nation states.
So a country made of and built by immigrants doesn't want immigrants anymore. I think that culture has a name: hypocrisy
This is a motte and bailey fallacy and doesnt even merit a response. Why dont you start with a good faith argument for how the US is anti immigrant, since the numbers clearly dont agree with that statement.
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#139This sounds nice but whenever I hear something like this or any kind of philanthropy, I always think of all the people who missed out because of some technicality. What about people who were in the final stages of studying to be a nurse and were waiting for the government to send back some paperwork to begin work on the front line and they missed out on the citizenship by a few weeks... Or people who lost their job t…
This kind of public relations improves support for immigration, so the net effect on potential immigrants could still be positive.
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#140Earlier quoted context omitted.
France usually gives citizenship for service or sacrifice to France,'Français par le sang versé', French by spilled blood.
IIRC this citizenship pathway is almost uniquely French, and one of the main reasons people sign up to the French Foreign Legion.
France is stereotyped as particularly culturally jingoistic. I wonder why France uniquely (among large countries?) has these offers of citizenship.