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Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?
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#132I wonder if the distribution will reach permanent residents as well at the same time as citizens.
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#133People saying "NO" or "I WILL WAIT" should be ashamed of themselves for falling for misinformation and harming the rest of us. (Unless people are confused and saying "I will wait" when in fact they're going to be forced to wait until their turn comes around)
You should be ashamed of trying to shame people into taking a new and still widely untested treatment. I've had Covid and we STILL don't even know if that makes a person immune. Has there ever been a case where a vaccine is MORE effective than actually getting and recovering from a virus? Seems like the latter would be "better" so why would I get a vaccine for something I am immune to?
Having Covid already is probably a fine excuse to not get the vaccine. We'll know soon enough how much immunity it gives you, but it seems to give plenty for now.
But unless it wasn't clear: I'm pissed at the massive amount of people saying they won't take the vaccine because of conspiracy theories. Not even the HN can escape them, apparently. I literally just saw and commented on someone spouting one in this thread just 20 minutes into the thread. And I got downvoted for calling them out, even when they agreed and took it down.
And then thinking that this vaccine which has been properly trialed and not rushed is going to somehow be worse than, for example, 1 in 1000 people in the UK already dead. Seriously?
So yeah, I'm going to shame people.
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#136Earlier quoted context omitted.
Edit: before you downvote, these are reasons I’ve read/heard. They do not represent my own views. 1. This is an mRNA vaccine and is the first of it's kind to be widely offered. This appears to be different than the rest of the vaccines out there for other illnesses. 2. There isn't a perceived benefit for many people: the vast majority of people won't get sick or be impacted in any way. 3. It apparently doesn't stop p…
And, of course the #1 reasons even in tech circles: ”BILL GATES IS GOING TO MICROCHIP AS ALL” or ”Covid is just a flu, it’s not going to affect me”
Please don't set up strawmen just to knock them down. It's too easy to cast everyone who has some rational scepticism as nutjob's, but that just alienates those who could otherwise be persuaded by civil discourse.
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#137I'm surprised to see such a high percentage of "NO" responses. I'm genuinely curious to understand why
I’m no anti-vaxxer, but the current situation feels like a scam to me. “Hurry, take this vaccine, save lives!” I’m being asked to suspend critical thinking and accept a chemical into my body under duress and time constraints. “Take it now, this is your time! It’s finally available to you. Don’t you want to resume your normal life?” I’d rather wait and see, even if waiting carries a small, known amount of infection ri…
Now that the vaccine is rolling out, all I hear is that only select groups are getting it now, and that the majority of people must wait. By the time most people even get the option to take it, thousands of others will have tried it. There is no rush.
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#138EDITED to remove most of the post. Does anyone have information on possible side effects?
The executive summary of the FDA report[1] on the vaccine lists observed side effects in the clinical trial population as well as their incidence rates. Briefly, it is comparable to a normal flu shot.
Derek Lowe, who's worked as a chemist doing drug discovery for 30 years (for whatever that experience is worth to you), wrote an article[2] talking about that report and gives his take on the question of safety.
He's also written an article[3] about how it's likely people will wrongly attribute things that would have happened anyway to having taken the vaccine.
For a techie analogy: Have you ever been roped into doing some computer support for a friend or family member? Fixing a printer, installing a driver, cleaning malware, etc.? Have you ever experienced someone you helped coming back to you the next week blaming you for some new issue that's cropped up because "It must have been you when you worked on it last week!", even though it's because they went to some scummy website or similar? The vaccine rollout is going to be that scenario times a billion.
[1] https://www.fda.gov/media/144245/download [2] https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2020/12/09/th... [3] https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2020/12/04/ge...
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#139Earlier quoted context omitted.
No need to worry about who should go first. They will be rolling it out based on need. When it's available to you, go get it.
Not sure why you would think a vaccine being managed by the government will be rolled out in a sane and consistent manner? edit As was correctly pointed out, I should mention I'm speaking purely about the US and not any other country.
because believe it or not some people live in countries where the government manages to do just that.
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#140I don't get why they don't take 10% of the initial supply and auction or sell at a high price. It would increase the perceived value of the vaccine and let market forces evaluate safety.