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I think Google devs are perfectly capable of building fast frontends, maybe they even want to, but if they're not rewarded for it (but are rewarded for "getting things done") they won't.
It's management's fault.
Maybe its time to move from webapps back to desktop apps? Angular, React etc. all this JavaScript seems to slow everything down. Everything in tech is so cyclical.
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I find Github and Amazon's main site to be pretty reasonable in comparison.
As someone who regularly uses other e-commerce front ends, I find Amazon to be quite cluttered and messy. Also it‘s surprisingly difficult to quickly find a specific product.
Google's UI's in general are shockingly slow. I don't understand why my Google Drive and Gmail have input lag and choppy animations on my 5 year old xps13, it's not that hard to make navigating a filesystem or list of emails fast. Actually I do understand, it's because they want everything they build to be made in a massive javascript framework with shared components, which looks nice but runs like garbage on anythin…
The original gmail design was so fast, beautiful and minimalistic. It had vi key bindings and was close to perfect. The new one had a bunch of useless white space and the app has a loading bar! Wtf?!
Boggles the mind how Google web apps have performance issues like this.
When you start implementing a second loading spinner. That's the time to stop and think about what you're doing. Surely.
The medium is the message. In some domains, slow and clunky feels like gravitas and reliability. Enterprise software. Enterprise recruiting software. AWS has a pretty slow, and clunky dashboard. AdSense is clunky. A lot of the biggest companies' flagship apps have a very bland "bureaucratic" look and feel. You may find it hard to believe, but Zuck wanted facebook to look like a government database for a long time, wh…
Google's UI's in general are shockingly slow. I don't understand why my Google Drive and Gmail have input lag and choppy animations on my 5 year old xps13, it's not that hard to make navigating a filesystem or list of emails fast. Actually I do understand, it's because they want everything they build to be made in a massive javascript framework with shared components, which looks nice but runs like garbage on anythin…
The original gmail design was so fast, beautiful and minimalistic. It had vi key bindings and was close to perfect. The new one had a bunch of useless white space and the app has a loading bar! Wtf?!
User to Dev: the memory usage is excessive. Dev with 256 GB RAM to User: WFM I would not be surprised if a lot of these problems could be traced back to developers having above-average network connections and super beefy computers. Combine that with fresh or minimal installs while testing the software, without lots of data that accumulated over month or years of use and in consequence they experience their products a…
Googlers have been WFH since March on laptops and residential Internet & WiFi.
Google's UI's in general are shockingly slow. I don't understand why my Google Drive and Gmail have input lag and choppy animations on my 5 year old xps13, it's not that hard to make navigating a filesystem or list of emails fast. Actually I do understand, it's because they want everything they build to be made in a massive javascript framework with shared components, which looks nice but runs like garbage on anythin…
The original gmail design was so fast, beautiful and minimalistic. It had vi key bindings and was close to perfect. The new one had a bunch of useless white space and the app has a loading bar! Wtf?!
As design overall started to become more relevant in products Google started to push out their redesigns but it was done with form instead of function as the focus. They've never really re-designed anything to be better - their updates have usually made the product worse.
But without a strong design leader it's death by a thousand cuts because there are so many layers of management to getting anything done.
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I don't think it is just that. Google is just shockingly bad at web frontend. All their properties are terrible, except maybe Youtube which I find quite agreeable. For example I just made a search on google.com, the most popular website in the world, and it can't even fit the content into this reasonably sized window [1]. [1] https://i.imgur.com/ER5yfbd.png
Youtube UI/UX is horrible, try moving items in a long playlist, it takes forever to drag scrolling. Imagine a search engine company that doesn't have a quick search inside a playlist. And you need browser extensions like Youtube HD to fix several issues. It has been this way for years.