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If happiness is the ultimate goal should we work on finding something like heroin, but without tolerance build up and withdrawals?
Maybe, but I don’t know that is a good assumption because that experiential happiness is, by definition, fleeting. That reflecting fulfilling memory lasts longer and I don’t that is maximized under that assumption
The older I get, the more I realize how many problems in the world are caused by the dark personality spectrum. Most men, police officers, priests, white people, catholics, politicians, or Germans are actually nice people who wouldn't harm anybody even if given the chance. A lot of the abuse that was done by these groups, be it towards women, ethnic minorities, children, or police brutality, was most likely done by s…
Did you just use white as a description for a group of people on the dark personality dimension?
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That's not how dark personalities are defined. With enough training one can recognize them. Relevant video: https://youtu.be/GaeJCA4nRPI
I got quite high on the dark spectrum there, but I don't do actions that I believe would harm others. So I believe the whole premise is flawed as all criminals are going to skew the average and essentially give "dark traits" a bad rep. I believe "dark traits" will make you more productive and able to reach goals more effectively, so if you have goals that are beneficial for society you would also be more effective in…
Knowing that one deals with a dark personality makes it easier to adjust one's interactions and expectations to them and not fall for possible abuse.
Every problem can be solved with enough understanding.
> Are people with dark personality traits more likely to succeed? I think these studies are all significantly flawed because successful people with dark personality traits learn to cover up their dark traits. As a result, the cohort of people with "dark traits" in these observational studies will inevitably be skewed towards those who are less successful/intelligent/adaptable. Possessing "dark traits" basically means…
'Dark' people don't hide it as well as they'd like. When it becomes clear somebody wants to play the dark game, all the choices become restrictive. Someone who has gained a position of authority with those traits is usually not worth challenging because you have to play the influence game in the dark where the rules have likely been implicitly set up against you. Inspiring fear or exhaustion becomes easy. Light peopl…
This is what I've observed. They tend to think they're smarter or more clever, and act as such, but really this makes their actions stand out as strange and often quite obvious. A gotcha, however, is that one has to be able to look past their charm, which can often be overpowering and is typically a shield of sorts.
> Are people with dark personality traits more likely to succeed? I think these studies are all significantly flawed because successful people with dark personality traits learn to cover up their dark traits. As a result, the cohort of people with "dark traits" in these observational studies will inevitably be skewed towards those who are less successful/intelligent/adaptable. Possessing "dark traits" basically means…
'Dark' people don't hide it as well as they'd like. When it becomes clear somebody wants to play the dark game, all the choices become restrictive. Someone who has gained a position of authority with those traits is usually not worth challenging because you have to play the influence game in the dark where the rules have likely been implicitly set up against you. Inspiring fear or exhaustion becomes easy. Light peopl…
It sometimes works in reverse though. Sometimes people think I'm funny when I would have though I quite clearly meant the unpleasant truth I just blurted out!
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> but its been shown pretty consistently that higher agreeableness (more empathy) has a negative effect Be careful conflating agreeableness with empathy. In Big Five OCEAN, empathy is a sub-facet of agreeableness(A), but not the only one. Other sub-facets of agreeableness are conflict-avoidance, modesty, compliance, and naive trust in others. Intuitively, it would seem to me those are more important contributor to su…
Sociopaths are great at empathy. Empathy is the ability to observe and understand others emotions without actually connecting. It’s absolutely essential to be a successful dark triad tape. Sympathy is the “light” counterpart, where you actually emotionally resonate with the other person. Obviously this makes nasty behavior less attractive since you feel the emotional effects too. And now you know why corporate psycho…
I definitely wouldn't say so. Instead, such people control most large countries, as presidents or dictators, incl the US until recently
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'Dark' people don't hide it as well as they'd like. When it becomes clear somebody wants to play the dark game, all the choices become restrictive. Someone who has gained a position of authority with those traits is usually not worth challenging because you have to play the influence game in the dark where the rules have likely been implicitly set up against you. Inspiring fear or exhaustion becomes easy. Light peopl…
> 'Dark' people don't hide it as well as they'd like. It sometimes works in reverse though. Sometimes people think I'm funny when I would have though I quite clearly meant the unpleasant truth I just blurted out!
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Morality is evolved. Humans are social animals, and we have evolved a set of rules to guide human communities by. We call this morality (there's an interesting discussion about biblical/religious morality vs atheist morality, but it's interesting because of how similar those moralities are). If your goals never align with those of your community/organisation, and you don't need the community/organisation to help you…
That assumes the community isnt evil
> Are people with dark personality traits more likely to succeed? I think these studies are all significantly flawed because successful people with dark personality traits learn to cover up their dark traits. As a result, the cohort of people with "dark traits" in these observational studies will inevitably be skewed towards those who are less successful/intelligent/adaptable. Possessing "dark traits" basically means…
I agree with you. Smart people with dark traits become really good at painting their objectives in moral, altruistic terms. They tend to limit the display of their "dark traits" through actions to infrequent events where they stand to gain significantly and will suffer the least blowback. This is because they understand that most people build trust by observing small actions. So the smart+dark personality combos foll…
Makes me think of hamburger companies removing plastic straws, but not promoting vegan burgers. instead, continuing in effect chopping down the rain forest to grow farm animal food -- meaning, they've sensed what people want to hear (saving the world from plastics) but don't actually care