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Re: PinePhone KDE Community Edition is now available

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Post by colejohnson66 »

kleiba wrote: post #42
oriesdan wrote: post #9

For the record, I received yesterday the new mainboard that will be in those phones to replace the one of my pinephone UBport edition. The boost in RAM (3gb instead of 2gb) does the trick for me, allowing to use firefox. Not to the point that the experience is even close to android, but at least usable (before that, I used elinks on the phone). The system I use (mobian/phosh) still feels sluggish, but I suspect it's…

I grew up in the C64 days - I still can't get my head around the fact that you need 3gb of RAM because 2gb is not enough to run a webbrowser these days. I know that what's going on on a typical website these days requires an enormous amount of computational power, but I mean, come on. That shouldn't be the explanation, it's part of the problem.

It’s interesting because the original iPhone from 2007 managed pretty well with a half a gigabyte of RAM (or was it a quarter?).

Re: PinePhone KDE Community Edition is now available

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Post by criddell »

qwertox wrote: post #41

I could fall in love with such a phone. One where I can easily run Python processes inside screen sessions, which gather GPS and other sensor data for rapid prototyping, stream that data over a WebSocket connection, then some Bluetooth stuff in Go. Computing stuff.

Did you ever get a chance to play with the Nokia Python phone? It was pre-iPhone days, but it looked very promising.

https://www.artima.com/weblogs/viewpost.jsp?thread=148064

Re: PinePhone KDE Community Edition is now available

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Post by anderspitman »

hobofan wrote: post #79
jegea wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I own the 3GB Manjaro edition of the PinePhone (same hardware as this one, AFAIK) and, while in theory you can do everything that you describe with it, it is hardly something you could use as your only smartphone for the day. (I still love it, though, and love hacking away with it!!) However, as of today, there's a much better way of achieving what you're describing in an Android phone: Termux (1) With Termux you can…

As of today yes, but who knows about tomorrow. Termux might be facing a harsh future given the changes in Android 10.[0] Actually switching to a pure Linux phone and might be the more viable long-term solution. [0]: https://github.com/termux/termux-packages/wiki/Termux-and-An...

This is important, but sadly a lot of people don't seem to notice/care what Google is doing to Android. The question in my mind is whether the quality of devices like the Pinephone can get high enough before the functionality of Android drops below a point where certain things simply become impossible.

Re: PinePhone KDE Community Edition is now available

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Post by stinkytaco »

cocoa19 wrote: post #111
Dahoon wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In reality it is likely more realistic to ask where are you as most places still use MMS.

Probably in a developing country. Most of latin america uses WhatsApp, a result of carriers charging a lot of money (compared to median salary) for SMS/MMS, while WhatsApp has always been free. When I came to the US (mid 2010's), I was surprised a large number of people never even heard of WhatsApp.

In the US they use Facebook Messenger, Google Hangouts and iMessage for sure (though not WhatsApp as you point out), but the only thing everyone is sure to have access to is SMS.

Re: PinePhone KDE Community Edition is now available

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Post by bluGill »

blihp wrote: post #94
enos_feedler wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it possible the Raspberry Pi ecosystem could move things forward for ARM based linux devices? I know they aren’t mobile, but it is a strong ecosystem with some traction.

In a sense it already has. I suspect the reason that Linux ARM support is as good as it is currently has a lot to do with devices like the Raspberry Pi. In 2010 (i.e. before the Pi) I was using a BeagleBoard-xM and things were both rough and spartan. Today the ARM packages in the repos are nearly at parity and things work much better. However, the Pi has never gotten much beyond being a forky port of Linux software (…

In that regard pine64 is better, they attempt to get things upstream.

Re: PinePhone KDE Community Edition is now available

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Post by anderspitman »

blendergeek wrote: post #73
LeonM wrote: post #58

Does anyone here have experience with actually using the pinephone as a daily driver? I know plenty of people that ordered one, but they are all laying on a drawer somewhere with the intention to play with it a bit. Basically how most RPi's end up. Just curious if this phone is actually competitive with android devices in the same price class.

> Does anyone here have experience with actually using the pinephone as a daily driver? I do. I have been using my pmOS edition as my daily driver since the day i gott it. > Just curious if this phone is actually competitive with android devices in the same price class. That depends on your needs. It is not going to have any of the proprietary app that are on Android. So, what works? - Camera: stills only - Phone cal…

How much memory do you have? On my 2GB Firefox is very slow.

Re: PinePhone KDE Community Edition is now available

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Post by omnimus »

anderspitman wrote: post #130

I've been playing with my pinephone a bit (2GB postmarketOS). Overall I think it's awesome and I love having a real linux machine in such a nice package. The build quality is much better than expected. That said, Firefox is extremely slow and crashes a lot. Getting a fast stable browser seems like priority #1 to me. If these things are ever going to take off they need apps, and I think web apps (for better or for wor…

I would bet its software issue. Cheap androids are more than OK. People who only buy high-end don't realize how good cheep phones like xiaomi mi a123 are. It's mostly worse camera... they are solid metal build and don't even feel slower.

I've had the pleasure with pinephone manjaro edition and its ok build. Once the software is better i will go for it.

Re: PinePhone KDE Community Edition is now available

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Post by dskleingeld »

black_puppydog wrote: post #93

I've been trying to run my pinephone (mobian) for more things. Since I work from home, this means mostly podcasts, and the occasional call. Well... calls don't work for me, but that might be my (secondary) SIM. I'll try it with the primary soon. Podcasts... I set up gPodder (while docked, because the UI doesn't adapt to the screen) and then use mpv to actually play the episodes which... is surprisingly usable. Next I…

regarding podcasts, I am getting a pinephone in a week or two and am building a podcast player as a side project. It is the first gui/app I have ever made and currently it cant even play anything, that is when it compiles, but if you take a look in 2 weeks I might have something (ugly and) functional. https://github.com/dskleingeld/pods

Re: PinePhone KDE Community Edition is now available

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Post by op03 »

kleiba wrote: post #42
oriesdan wrote: post #9

For the record, I received yesterday the new mainboard that will be in those phones to replace the one of my pinephone UBport edition. The boost in RAM (3gb instead of 2gb) does the trick for me, allowing to use firefox. Not to the point that the experience is even close to android, but at least usable (before that, I used elinks on the phone). The system I use (mobian/phosh) still feels sluggish, but I suspect it's…

I grew up in the C64 days - I still can't get my head around the fact that you need 3gb of RAM because 2gb is not enough to run a webbrowser these days. I know that what's going on on a typical website these days requires an enormous amount of computational power, but I mean, come on. That shouldn't be the explanation, it's part of the problem.

Boat has sailed. Recently told an intern to setup a simple notification system at work between Linux desktops and Android phones. He ended up downloading 2 GB of Android tooling and 600 MB of kdeconnect to build basically a TCP connection.
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