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Re: 1MB Club

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Post by myself248 »

chrisin2d wrote: post #109
aresant wrote: post #58

From a "Why, who cares" perspective website (and app) speed are highly correlated with conversion and engagement. Google's headline research on the subject says "Improving your load time by 0.1s can boost conversion rates by 8%." Some add'l data, sourced by Neilsen Group below: - Google found that increasing the load time of its SERPs by half a second resulted in a 20% higher bounce rate. - Google found 53% of mobile…

I used to work for a major e-commerce company and will back this up. The importance of performance, of course, depends on the use case. In e-commerce, the biggest factors (that come to mind) to compete on are—SEO and brand aside—price, offerings, and convenience. Convenience has two dimensions: UX and performance. If a user has a very clear idea of what they want from your site, they'll probably be patient. If a user…

So what you're saying is, the fact that I feel icky and decide against spending any money on HomeDepot.com lately, is hardly a surprise.

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Post by b112 »

jyriand wrote: post #80
syassami wrote: post #53

My personal fav: 148kb, $530B company. https://www.berkshirehathaway.com

Just for your information, from their legal page: "...linking to this website without written permission is prohibited." Not sure what is meant by this, but I found it funny.

Imagine if we all wrote?

Re: 1MB Club

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Post by droobles »

commonturtle wrote: post #120

This seems to be a common sentiment among developers today but honestly bloat doesn't bother me too much. I do want good performance from my websites, but with fast internet connections, who cares if it is 1KB or 1MB? Also, if you can develop a website for half the cost with twice the size, isn't that the right thing to do? Developer time is the expensive resource, and bandwidth is cheap.

A fair assessment for an MVP in the US, but you fail to scale globally if your site is bloated as not all countries and territories have the access to data at low cost the US has. Definitely worth it to optimize and reduce bloat after establishing your product's place in the market (or develop from the get-go with reducing bloat in mind).

Re: 1MB Club

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Post by pletnes »

ChuckMcM wrote: post #127
aresant wrote: post #58

From a "Why, who cares" perspective website (and app) speed are highly correlated with conversion and engagement. Google's headline research on the subject says "Improving your load time by 0.1s can boost conversion rates by 8%." Some add'l data, sourced by Neilsen Group below: - Google found that increasing the load time of its SERPs by half a second resulted in a 20% higher bounce rate. - Google found 53% of mobile…

If nobody cares, why did Google invest so much in amp ?

To take control of other people’s content and, by extension, revenue streams? Performance was a selling point to the web dev - me, as a user of the web, was never even asked my opinion, and I can’t (easily) disable amp.

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Post by bityard »

commonturtle wrote: post #120

This seems to be a common sentiment among developers today but honestly bloat doesn't bother me too much. I do want good performance from my websites, but with fast internet connections, who cares if it is 1KB or 1MB? Also, if you can develop a website for half the cost with twice the size, isn't that the right thing to do? Developer time is the expensive resource, and bandwidth is cheap.

1. Not everyone in the world has a fast internet connection, or even a reliable one. Smaller pages have a better chance of making it through congestion or physical layer problems.

2. Even when speed is not an issue, many people are billed by the megabyte. My phone's data plan for example. I almost never use it for anything more than email and a handful of very trusted sites.

Re: 1MB Club

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Post by tenebrisalietum »

syassami wrote: post #53

My personal fav: 148kb, $530B company. https://www.berkshirehathaway.com

Want to tell them you like it? Better buy a stamp.

"If you have any comments about our WEB page, you can write us at the address shown above. However, due to the limited number of personnel in our corporate office, we are unable to provide a direct response."

I see they have a link to "Berkshire Activewear". Now that's a much much more heavyweight page.

Re: 1MB Club

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Post by gohbgl »

wackro wrote: post #114
criddell wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I assume you went through the proper channels to get written permission to make that link. From the legal disclaimer at the bottom: > linking to this website without written permission is prohibited

How enforceable is this? And what's the likelihood anyone would try to enforce it?

Probably as enforceable as having "looking at me is prohibited" written on your shirt while walking down the street.

Re: 1MB Club

#139

Post by bityard »

droobles wrote: post #133
commonturtle wrote: post #120

This seems to be a common sentiment among developers today but honestly bloat doesn't bother me too much. I do want good performance from my websites, but with fast internet connections, who cares if it is 1KB or 1MB? Also, if you can develop a website for half the cost with twice the size, isn't that the right thing to do? Developer time is the expensive resource, and bandwidth is cheap.

A fair assessment for an MVP in the US, but you fail to scale globally if your site is bloated as not all countries and territories have the access to data at low cost the US has. Definitely worth it to optimize and reduce bloat after establishing your product's place in the market (or develop from the get-go with reducing bloat in mind).

> have the access to data at low cost the US has

I don't know where you heard that, the US has some of the most expensive and slowest Internet access in the developed world.

https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/country_price_rankings...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Internet_...

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