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750M genetically modified mosquitoes to be released in Florida

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Re: 750M genetically modified mosquitoes to be released in Florida

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2016: NNT warns about tail risks of GMOs https://twitter.com/nntaleb/status/770966228965916672?s=20 2019: As predicted, the Genetically Modified Mosquito project has gone wrong with "unforeseen outcomes" https://twitter.com/nntaleb/status/1172864041016090624?s=20 Sadly this won't stop until there is a Chernobyl-level accident.

Wasn't that retracted? It was speculation, not science. And in fact it didn't happen.

Re: 750M genetically modified mosquitoes to be released in Florida

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Just when you think that 2020 couldn't be more complicated... playing with floridian ecosystems and trophic chains at large scale. If you really want to do this kind of experiments you need to assure that it happens in the context of an stable, responsible government. One able to take countermeasures quick if something fails, and able to deal with two biological emergencies at the same time. One that doesn't claim th…

> One that doesn't claim that will now follow...

Typo. Must be: "One that doesn't claim that will noT follow..." obviously.

I must admit that is a badly constructed phrase.

Re: 750M genetically modified mosquitoes to be released in Florida

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post #82

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Could we do the same for ticks?

Should we? What is normally eating the ticks or living off of them?

Ground birds as well. Chicken's (and Guinea Fowl) will eat large amounts of ticks if present.

Re: 750M genetically modified mosquitoes to be released in Florida

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When this happens for humans, I predict that we would also see parallel development of tests which ensure that a potential mate does not have gene drives in their genome.

You have now re-invented the TV series "Island City" from 1994.

Stargate had a set of episodes that was roughly near this topic too. It was one of my faves.

Re: 750M genetically modified mosquitoes to be released in Florida

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post #91

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I think @reedf1 is talking about the long term damage to a population. With the gene drive technology, the modified gene is always inherited. the 750 million number is there to speed up the process. (This my understanding from reading the first few paragraphs from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gene_drive )

How exactly would they inherit the genes if it causes sterility?

Sterility is just one example of gene modification.

A harmful modification that doesn't cause sterility will propagate across generations if the indivuals are able to reproduce.

For example a scenario where we see the symptoms but we don't know that they are caused by a gene modification. And where individuals are still able to live and have children.

And I'm not saying that the tech is bad. I'm sure that people can come up with a lot of good use cases.

Re: 750M genetically modified mosquitoes to be released in Florida

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2016: NNT warns about tail risks of GMOs https://twitter.com/nntaleb/status/770966228965916672?s=20 2019: As predicted, the Genetically Modified Mosquito project has gone wrong with "unforeseen outcomes" https://twitter.com/nntaleb/status/1172864041016090624?s=20 Sadly this won't stop until there is a Chernobyl-level accident.

Wasn't that retracted? It was speculation, not science. And in fact it didn't happen.

Interesting, there was indeed an update: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-62398-w

Re: 750M genetically modified mosquitoes to be released in Florida

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There is nobody dying of mosquito diseases in Florida. This is an unnecessary risky move with unforeseen consequences just like China's 1 child 1 family policy. Anyways, if the lab wants to sell their solution in Florida, they better live in Florida. -Floridian (University of Florida 1999')

Re: 750M genetically modified mosquitoes to be released in Florida

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post #118

My favorite reading tip when such experiments are reported is Edward Tenner's classic book "Why Things Bite Back: Technology and the Revenge of Unintended Consequences" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Why_Things_Bite_Back

I'll check it out.

I'm also afraid that the hindsight will be blinding.

Re: 750M genetically modified mosquitoes to be released in Florida

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post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think @reedf1 is talking about the long term damage to a population. With the gene drive technology, the modified gene is always inherited. the 750 million number is there to speed up the process. (This my understanding from reading the first few paragraphs from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gene_drive )

How exactly would they inherit the genes if it causes sterility?

I think the idea with gene drive is the offspring are sterile so if you went with one of the genetically modified guys you'd get kids but not grandkids.

You could always have a tick box for it on the Tinder profile.

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