How I talk to the victims of conspiracy theories

Post by ghthor » Tue, Nov 03, 2020, 3:59 PM UTC

krapp wrote: post #127

ghthor wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Clearly is a pretty strong term. I'm sure skeptics arguing against Galileo would have used string words like "clearly" to dismiss his ideas.

>I'm sure skeptics arguing against Galileo would have used string words like "clearly" to dismiss his ideas. The fact that people dismissing Galileo's claimed turned out to have been wrong does not mean people who dismiss COVID conspiracies or reptoids are equally as likely to be wrong. People who believe in a conspiracy of globalist elite reptilian shapeshifters are clearly wrong. Clearly is a strong term, and it's…

I must be a moron then, because I dont think they are clearly wrong. I would say their is clearly more going on then the government is telling us and Bill Gates is creepy as fuck.

Post by andrewjl » Sat, Nov 14, 2020, 6:41 AM UTC

sjaak wrote: post #115

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What if the faith in God was rational? I mean to YOU it doesn't seem rational, but to the faithful it does. I mean one logical, rational argument used is that the universe and life is incredibly complicated, we as "mere" humans cannot create it, and it's incredibly unlikely humans would develop like we did. Therefore, there must be intelligent design behind it. See? Rational and logical thought. Dismissing people who…

If it were rational, it would also be falsifiable. Let me ask you: what would have to happen for you to rescind your belief? Also; at the risk of starting a discussion about religion: you haven't developed a logical argument by saying "universe is complicated -> deity". You've only moved the problem of "who or what created X" up one level to the deity. Who created the deity?

Rationality itself is not falsifiable, it relies on axioms that must be assumed true in order to work.

Edit: Treating rationality as something real as opposed to just a (very useful) figment of our imagination, i.e. something like a variant of Platonic Realism, is no different from any other religion.

Re: How I talk to the victims of conspiracy theories

Re: How I talk to the victims of conspiracy theories