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Re: Palo Alto Networks sends cease-and-desist letter to take down review videos

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Post by dylan604 » Wed, Oct 21, 2020, 9:06 PM UTC

hinkley wrote: post #56

dylan604 wrote: post #21

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Huh? If it causes the video giving bad reviews of their product to be taken down, the C&D letter does a lot of good for Palo Alto. Even if the review is accurate, if Palo Alto can force the review to go away it is a good day's work for that lawyer.

Unless you trigger the Streisand Effect. But it looks like more people have upvoted this post than actually watched the video, so maybe that isn’t going to happen.

While the Streisand Effect might be valid, I am curious if lawyers give a crap about it. If more people start posting the same content and/or similar but equally aggravating content, then that's just more work for the lawyers to do. More billable hours. They'll just have an intern or do it.

Re: Palo Alto Networks sends cease-and-desist letter to take down review videos

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Post by victorhooi » Fri, Oct 23, 2020, 12:45 AM UTC

CapitalistCartr wrote: post #23

pavel_lishin wrote: post #12

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How do you tell whether you're doing something wrong or not without spending money on your own lawyer?

My wife went to law school. I know lots of lawyers. The spread between Justin (first in his class by a fat margin), and the bottom, oh, say, quarter of the class, is brutal.

Sorry, I might have missed some context here - but which Justin are you referring to?

Re: Palo Alto Networks sends cease-and-desist letter to take down review videos

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Post by different_sort » Fri, Oct 23, 2020, 1:03 AM UTC

CameronNemo wrote: post #92

different_sort wrote: post #82

Prisma cloud (the cloud monitoring part) is not a great product. It lags pretty far behind cloud provider capabilities. I also got the email that orca probably sent to everyone in their CRM about this, and while I didn’t need any reason to think less of prisma, I now associate Orca as a competitor and probably an earlier call than palo alto for cloud.

We are considering prisma cloud to monitor an on premise kubernetes deployment. Is there anything I should be concerned about or better options to consider?

I actually have never seen it's kubernetes security platform.

If it's using RQL for that I would take that as a redflag that it won't support much customization or logic that would allow you to tailor it to your organization.

Re: Palo Alto Networks sends cease-and-desist letter to take down review videos

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Post by snuxoll » Fri, Oct 23, 2020, 8:24 PM UTC

CountSessine wrote: post #128

chipotle_coyote wrote: post #103

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Hmm. I don't know about Windows, but when I've used Linux in the last few years, my impression of systemd is that somebody looked over at Apple's launchd and inexplicably said "yes, that's a great idea, let's do that," then did it just a little bit worse.

Poettering actually did model systemd on launchd. See http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/systemd.html . It's kind of funny because launchd and especially launchctl made a lot more sense to me after I learned systemd. In both good and bad ways.

I mean, the general design is fine, the UX kind of sucks though. systemctl stop/start/restart/reload/enable/disable is a lot easier to grok than launchctl.

Re: Palo Alto Networks sends cease-and-desist letter to take down review videos

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Post by dipslip » Wed, Oct 28, 2020, 2:42 PM UTC

CameronNemo wrote: post #92

different_sort wrote: post #82

Prisma cloud (the cloud monitoring part) is not a great product. It lags pretty far behind cloud provider capabilities. I also got the email that orca probably sent to everyone in their CRM about this, and while I didn’t need any reason to think less of prisma, I now associate Orca as a competitor and probably an earlier call than palo alto for cloud.

We are considering prisma cloud to monitor an on premise kubernetes deployment. Is there anything I should be concerned about or better options to consider?

The Kubernetes protection is derived from their Twistlock acquisition which is really good (just wish they’d get some SAST stuff in there). Not tied to RQL (but can be queried with it for some information)