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Re: Tinnitus Treatment from Neuromod

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Post by modeless »

asiachick wrote: post #129
modeless wrote: post #78

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To clean your ears yourself you need something like this: https://www.japantrendshop.com/coden-ear-scope-13000-standar... I thought it was ridiculous when I first saw it but I took a chance on it and it is actually a great product. You can clearly see everything and clean without damaging your ear. If you've ever had to go to the doctor to clear a blocked ear, you need one of these. With occasional use (~once/month)…

The reviews are pretty mixed https://www.amazon.co.jp/%E3%82%A4%E3%83%A4%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B... But more interesting all the recommendations listed on Amazon. Tons of them, many 1/2 the price of the one above, but use your phone as the display

I find Amazon reviews fairly useless these days. Most good ratings are just because of fake or paid reviewers or other scams like switching the product while keeping the reviews, combining two products in one listing, and probably others I don't know about. Amazon seems powerless to fix it, or maybe they just don't think they need to care.

I haven't tried any of the phone based endoscopes but I expect the latency and reliability to be bad. When I'm controlling something that's deep in my ear canal I don't want latency or dropped frames.

Re: Tinnitus Treatment from Neuromod

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Post by beaugunderson »

maroonblazer wrote: post #124
modeless wrote: post #78

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To clean your ears yourself you need something like this: https://www.japantrendshop.com/coden-ear-scope-13000-standar... I thought it was ridiculous when I first saw it but I took a chance on it and it is actually a great product. You can clearly see everything and clean without damaging your ear. If you've ever had to go to the doctor to clear a blocked ear, you need one of these. With occasional use (~once/month)…

Drops seem safer to me. I've had good success with Debrox, but there are a variety of brands. https://www.debrox.com/products/debrox-earwax-removal-kit

I've sworn off Debrox after damaging my ear recently. The instructions say to leave it in for "several minutes"; I waited ~10. My hearing was impacted for several days afterward. In the one ear I got high-pitched feedback when watching TV, it sounded like someone was running sound through a guitar distortion pedal. It went back to normal after ~5 days but I was very scared that it would be a permanent effect.

Re: Tinnitus Treatment from Neuromod

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Post by wlonkly »

Unibod wrote: post #108
becurious wrote: post #101

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No, there is CE marking for medical devices in the EU which means it has achieved conformity for the Medical Devices directive. Generally equivalent to FDA regulation.

Just beware there is an EU CE and Chinese export C E. They are different. I probably can't post a link but the search you need is this: CE eu markings CE china export. CE is a mark of quality assurance and compliance. C E is not the same. [edit for spelling]

If the space is meant to represent the gap between the C and E, then you have this backwards: the European mark has one letter-width space between the C and E, and the forged mark from China has the C and E right next to each other.

Re: Tinnitus Treatment from Neuromod

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Post by Defenestresque »

beambot wrote: post #8
zdw wrote: post #6

How was this discovered? Did someone lick the terminals of a 9V battery and realize their tinnitus changed for the better?

Backstory was published in Science: https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/10/electric-shocks-tong...

Thanks! For those who are busy:

>Hubert Lim, a biomedical engineer at the University of Minnesota, Twin Cities, hit on the role of the tongue in tinnitus by accident. A few years ago, he experimented with using a technique called deep brain stimulation to restore his patients’ hearing. When he inserted a pencil-size rod covered in electrodes directly into the brains of five patients, some of those electrodes landed slightly outside the target zone—a common problem with deep brain stimulation, Lim says. Later, when he started up the device to map out its effects on the brain, a patient who had been bothered by ringing ears for many years, said, “Oh, my tinnitus! I can’t hear my tinnitus,” Lim recalls.

Re: Tinnitus Treatment from Neuromod

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Post by therealx »

anon73044 wrote: post #128
meowface wrote: post #114

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My baseless armchair speculative fear, with absolutely zero knowledge of this field or technology, is if some of the new hair cells could maybe somehow not fully "sync with" or complement the existing set and perhaps just make you hear "differently" but not necessarily better, and perhaps even worse in some contexts, depending on what % of your existing hair cells were healthy. I have no clue if that has any remote b…

My fear would be that they see this product has a bigger market at targeting make hair loss than hearing loss. That said, I wouldn't hesitate to take it today if it would rid me of this wretched ringing.

If that's true, you can almost guarantee a cottage industry of doctors writing off label scripts.

Re: Tinnitus Treatment from Neuromod

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Post by JonathonW »

anon73044 wrote: post #128
meowface wrote: post #114

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My baseless armchair speculative fear, with absolutely zero knowledge of this field or technology, is if some of the new hair cells could maybe somehow not fully "sync with" or complement the existing set and perhaps just make you hear "differently" but not necessarily better, and perhaps even worse in some contexts, depending on what % of your existing hair cells were healthy. I have no clue if that has any remote b…

My fear would be that they see this product has a bigger market at targeting make hair loss than hearing loss. That said, I wouldn't hesitate to take it today if it would rid me of this wretched ringing.

Cochlear hair cells are fundamentally different types of cells than the hair follicles that produce the hair on your head; the name is more than a little misleading in this respect. Cochlear hair cells get their name from hair-like structures called stereocilia that project from the surface of the cells; they don't produce anything like the protein filaments that make up human hair.

A treatment that happened to have application to both male hair loss and hearing loss due to cochlear damage would be a really weird coincidence.

Re: Tinnitus Treatment from Neuromod

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Post by graeme »

yablak wrote: post #56
dylan604 wrote: post #41

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I was in a T-bone accident where another car hit me centered right in between the driver and passenger doors. My left ear now has tinnitus, and I too have a hard time hearing conversation in large groups of people. However, after the wreck, I visited hearing specialist several times. I always passed their tests of the faint frequencies. They cannot explain where the ringing originates.?!?! It's one of those things it…

TMJ can cause tinnitus; specifically there is a nerve connecting your jaw to the areas near your ear. Damage to this nerve, e.g., caused by years of unmitigated clenching/grinding at night or by an injury, can cause this. A neurologist may help suggest some tests. In the case of TMJ, there's a specific CT scan that will identify damaged cartilage below the ear that is typically linked to tinnitus.

When you say “unmitigated” do you mean via a mouth guard or something else?

I clench, have a mouth guard, but still clench. Don’t know of other treatments but would love to find one. I have tinnitus either as a result or from a bike accident which hurt my jaw and started the clenching.

Re: Tinnitus Treatment from Neuromod

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Post by graeme »

ChrisLTD wrote: post #105
treeman79 wrote: post #95

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TMJ was the cause of about 7% of my migraine. Watched a few YouTube videos, self massages for a few days. Found a spot that was super painful. Once it released, Migraines mostly gone.

can you link the videos that worked for you?

Might be the bob and brad physio videos. Not op, but was looking at this recently and they have some of the most prominent ones.

Re: Tinnitus Treatment from Neuromod

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Post by ultrarunner »

ghastmaster wrote: post #120
svdr wrote: post #69

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I have mild tinnitus. When I move my jaw forward the sound intensives strongly, and then fades when my jaw relaxes. So there is definitely a connection for me.

This is not too unusual. For me if I jut my jaw forward, it temporarily increases the noise also.

Wow, it actually makes mine slightly quieter, or possibly of a deeper timbre.

Re: Tinnitus Treatment from Neuromod

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Post by vram22 »

dmoy wrote: post #90
modeless wrote: post #78

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To clean your ears yourself you need something like this: https://www.japantrendshop.com/coden-ear-scope-13000-standar... I thought it was ridiculous when I first saw it but I took a chance on it and it is actually a great product. You can clearly see everything and clean without damaging your ear. If you've ever had to go to the doctor to clear a blocked ear, you need one of these. With occasional use (~once/month)…

Oh wow that is amazing I also get mild tinnitus for the last 6 or so years due to earwax (once it got completely blocked and I had to go to the doctor to have them irrigate it back out). I don't use cotton or any scraping right now, but I do use the same stuff the doctor used to irrigate it every once in awhile, to middling effect. Maybe I'll try out that ear scope thing.

In India a common practice is to go to a doctor (G.P.) who uses a foot-long syringe to irrigate your ears with warm water. It is supposed to soften the wax which then either comes out by itself when you tilt your head (lying down) after the syringing, or can be removed easily by earbud etc.
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