I blame git providers for not giving very fine grained controls to repo owners to limit PRs.
One Guy Ruined Hacktoberfest 2020
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#132Earlier quoted context omitted.
I thought of that, but if you’re wealthy enough to watch YouTube and submit PRs on GitHub, is that really that much of a reward?
You can be pretty damn poor and do both of those things.
My entire youth could be described as having all the time in the world but not a dime to my name.
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#133Being from India, his videos did show up on my recommendations. And I have opened some of them. The tone of the videos are bit off for me. He has some photo copyed written notes that everyone does in colleges in India. Needless to say I never could go beyond these display of notes.
After doing all these programming videos, he then started doing laptop recommendations and what not. But I never expected this. I mean there are lot of simple tech videos coming out of India some good some bad but I never expected to see encouragement of such kind of behaviour.
But I have also seen videos by Indian "gurus" who preach how to get free websites on github, without understanding what github really is.
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#134This is not only kind of spam going on here. A twitter user mentioned that some youtubers are themselves creating assignment aggregation type repos, and encouraging their viewers to contribute some copy paste code to those repos and they approve the pull request. That's insane. I feel ashamed to say I am an Indian.
> I feel ashamed to say I am an Indian.
I don't understand this. You don't have to defend the actions of individual(s) even if they share their nationality with you. It's sufficient to call them out for unacceptable behavior. For people who ascribe this to all Indians, it's on them not on you.
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#135Earlier quoted context omitted.
No. Just look at my username; you don’t get more Indian-sounding than that. The way forward is to submit high-quality pull requests, not spam them to get a free T-shirt, and certainly not to give up and let people ruin it for you. I personally guarantee you that it’ll work out.
> Just look at my username; you don’t get more Indian-sounding than that. I know, right! Incidentally, a past draft of my advice was going to refer to you and 'manishearth on the Rust core team as "good" examples to emulate. All this talk about "Shitoberfest" and such is driving me up the wall though. I don't know, maybe I'm wrong. I feel like we are not welcome, but I guess a lot of people in this thread are saying…
People don’t want to be racist. Nobody here (at least, I hope) is getting pleasure from saying that a bunch of Indian people are spamming them with low-quality pull requests. But the fact is that this is happening, and it’s better to try to figure out what is actually happening rather than throwing up your hands and saying “these people have tarnished my ability to ever file a pull request”, it’s much more useful to try to identify what’s really happening and then see if we can fix it.
The fact is that DigitalOcean basically ran a lazy but well-meaning program that was promoted with a poorly-thought-out (but also well-meaning) video on YouTube to a majority Indian audience who largely had no experience with open source etiquette and thus we have the logical result. It’s not that they’re bad people or stupid or whatever, but they were just in the perfect storm of things that told them to do what they’re doing right now because they literally got no guidance at all. This is just “I accidentally sent my feature request email to the development mailing list because I’m unfamiliar with how this process works” but magnified by several orders of magnitude and also slanted towards participation by a certain group of people. The frustration is of course towards the circumstances that led to this happening but it’s often hard to express that and much easier to tweet angrily about “Indian dudes spamming me with PRs”.
Re: One Guy Ruined Hacktoberfest 2020
#136> This flood of low quality PR spam appears to come from a YouTuber with an audience of 672K where he demonstrates how easy it is to make a Pull Request to a repo.
> Where he went wrong was demonstrating a low quality PR, thus setting the bar low for his viewers who went on to copy exactly what he did.
This is the problem on the industry today. All these “how to...” and no depth
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#137Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I am an Indian, and I think I have no right to complain about that reputation. I think that we are in agreement regarding that? I have no right to complain about it either. I can offer advice to bypass Open Source contributions altogether, which would have the side effect of stopping incidents like this. And it's not like projects are starved for README contributions either, coding bootcamps or someone else will pi…
Then, should we stop writing good code because some shitheads set a bad example? Let me be clear, when you write open source code there are incentives like creating / improving tool for our own use, experimenting, or having a legitimate contribution, even if it is for sake of resume. The software we want to write as OSS is often not the software we can write as proprietary, sell and make money. Should we give up all…
I’d really like epithet to reserve that for people who are actively malicious. There are no signs to the contrary for the people submitting spam PRs being enthusiastic developers looking to get into open source and score some swag while they’re at it but lacking the guidance to really understand that they’re being annoying to other people.
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#138Spam PRs are frustrating but this rant just reads as petty and vindictive. The author claims that he doesn't "want to cancel or shame him personally", which just rings of false humility considering he named the article "How One Guy Ruined #Hacktoberfest2020" and then chose to expose his Youtube name repeatedly, something even other frustrated tweeters chose NOT to do. Here's what CodeWithHarry did: He created an exam…
The top comment in this thread (from someone who speaks the language) says that he openly encouraged people to spam meaningless PRs in order to get "free swag." I think the rebuke he is getting is deserved.
Even the title of the video is "How to Earn Free T-Shirt, Swag & Goodies Online!", and the description is in the same vein mostly focusing on getting swag, while seeing (meaningful) PRs as secondary.
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#139I agree that the spam is problematic, but I feel the need to call out his "data collection". As evidence that CodeWithHarry is the cause, he says > A search for "Amazing Project" is now showing 21,177 issues. and > A search for "improve docs" shows 319,251 issues. ??? Improve docs has been a common beginner level PR since the beginning of time. Do you really think that 319k spam issues have been filed in the last day…
Love this one — somebody is trying to rename "package.json" into "package": https://github.com/dinosaurjs/website/pull/28
No, he renamed it to "package: An Amazing Project.json"
Re: One Guy Ruined Hacktoberfest 2020
#140[edit: Possibly I'm being too hasty in recommending swearing off Open Source contributions. Go forth and contribute, I suppose :) Leaving my original comment below for completeness.] For other South Asian/Indian people like me, a pessimistic but practical counterpoint to this -- if you happen to be Indian and have a username that marks you as such, just lie low for a bit and don't contribute anything; especially duri…
I'm an Indian and I beg to disagree. I have made small contributions to open source projects, including fixing typos, and have never felt unwelcome.
I'm a teacher of economics and open source software including Python, Julia, LaTeX, R and Linux are essential to my work. I would find it hard to pay for proprietary equivalents of all the open source software I use. I consider it my duty to contribute back in whatever way I can.
My national pride is not hurt just because another Indian who did something wrong was criticised on the Internet.