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Amnesty International India Halts Its Work in India Due to Government Reprisal

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Re: Amnesty International India Halts Its Work in India Due to Government Reprisal

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Post by doomslice »

djsumdog wrote: post #104
0xmohit wrote: post #62

Worth noting is the fact that the government is charging protestors and dissenters under sedition and UAPA [0]. > In July 2019,the ambit of UAPA was expanded. It was amended allowing the government to designate an individual as a terrorist without trial. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unlawful_Activities_(Preventio...

> protestors and dissenters There are massacres going on it seems. In America we are seeing rioters constantly classified by the media as protestors. If a group is literally slaughtering the other group, protestor seems like the wrong word.

> In America we are seeing rioters constantly classified by the media as protestors.

Could you show me some instances of this? I've heard this repeated but I haven't actually seen it myself.

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Post by nl »

ravibhatt wrote: post #113
nl wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> https://muse.jhu.edu/article/713724 >> From the Journal of Democracy (Jan 2019) > The reports published by these orgs are prepared by some minimum wage worker Author: Sumit Ganguly is Distinguished Professor of Political Science and Rabindranath Tagore Professor of Indian Cultures and Civilizations at the Indiana University. > Lancet and "Global Health Security Index" I don't know what "Global Health Security Inde…

None of his previous work is on the subject of freedom and democracy btw: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumit_Ganguly

Thanks for the Wikipedia page!

I think it makes it fairly clear he is well qualified to write on the topic. Only one of the his 8 books wasn't about India. He was awarded the "Pravasi Bharatiya Samman (Distinguished Overseas Indian)" award by the President of India!

Additionally he has published extensively specifically about India and democracy since at least 1997: https://scholar.google.com.au/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&q=S...

I'd note in particular his contribution to the 1997 classic in the field "Paths to Peace - Is Democracy the Answer?"

https://mitpress.mit.edu/books/paths-peace

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Post by commoner »

nilsocket wrote: post #127

How about people educate themselves regarding Amnesty. https://www.opindia.com/2019/09/the-life-and-crimes-of-amnes...

> OpIndia is an Indian right-wing news portal founded in 2014 by Rahul Raj and Kumar Kamal. The website has published fake news and anti-Muslim commentary on multiple occasions, including a 2020 incident in which it falsely claimed that a Hindu boy was sacrificed in a Bihar mosque.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpIndia

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Post by arjun1296 »

deskamess wrote: post #21
sssk wrote: post #15

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The government's perspective. Apparently, the bank account that was frozen violated money laundering laws and was upheld by a court. https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/business/india-business/...

The govt has been tackling entities that do not conform with their views. Conformance is their objective.

Government needs to ensure whether NGOs are working as per there declared mandate and need to ensure their mandatory legal compliance requirements. And it isn't "Conformance to their objective" is mandatory legal compliance in a democracy.

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Post by malware7 »

throwaway4good wrote: post #129
malware7 wrote: post #126

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>> crackdown on ethnic minorities Which minorities?

About 10% of India's population is muslim however in Kashmir they are a majority which I think is more or less the root cause of the Kashmir conflict.

I wonder how did muslims became majority in kashmir? Do you know?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exodus_of_Kashmiri_Hindus

Now that the these refugees are coming back o their motherland, propagandists are busy labelling it as hindu occupation and minority oppression.

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Post by john4532452 »

slevin063 wrote: post #109
john4532452 wrote: post #97

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> Hindu nationalism is just like any nationalism. There is a fundamental difference Indian nationalism and other countries nationalism. Indian nationalism is all about bringing back the "varna system" which advocates stratification of society based on the birth and access to education is only allowed for the brahmins(priestly caste). This was the system implemented strictly before the Britishers arrived to India. No…

Not discounting the negative effects of the nationalism, but I don't think caste system is behind the current rise of nationalism. The prime minister himself is from the lower caste.

> The prime minister himself is from the lower caste.

This does not change anything. Modi is just a pawn. He does not have any original ideology, he is there for power.

Look at the number of brahmins and non-brahmins in the key position in the BJP. Look at the analysis here https://theprint.in/politics/ambedkar-on-its-agenda-but-bjp-...

If you are still not convinced, look at what "Subramanian swamy" had to say when every one in BJP party was changing their twitter profile last name to "chowkidar"(meaning soldier or protector). He said he is a brahmin and its brahmins duty to advice how the country should be run and not be a soldier as vedas consider brahmins as superior to all the other varnas.

https://www.indiatoday.in/elections/lok-sabha-2019/story/can...

The point is the ideology that is driving BJP is all about bringing back the privilege based on the birth.

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Post by susant321 »

john4532452 wrote: post #120
pratik661 wrote: post #107

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Do you have any evidence to back your premise that Indian nationalists want to bring back the varna system? That’s an extraordinary claim that requires sourcing. From what I’ve seen it’s like any other nationalist movement.

Yes. The BJP government is backed by the RSS and most of the members of the BJP party including Modi is former member of RSS. RSS is a religious organization supporting the varna system.

This is a weird claim. I have never seen any healthy mind supports Varna system in India. Only few delusioned imagine that someone is working towards it. Come on guys!

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Post by john4532452 »

malware7 wrote: post #128
john4532452 wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes. The BJP government is backed by the RSS and most of the members of the BJP party including Modi is former member of RSS. RSS is a religious organization supporting the varna system.

Your opinion is not a valid source.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-29593336

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Post by 7171u »

mushbino wrote: post #117
Karupan wrote: post #44

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> India will only be a true democracy when Hinduism, which manifests in the caste system and brahmanic supremacy, will be annihilated. I have no words.

Does the caste system still exist in India?

Yes. https://reutersinstitute.politics.ox.ac.uk/caste-not-dead-su... https://www.thenewsminute.com/article/dalit-family-lives-gro... https://indianexpress.com/article/cities/hyderabad/hyderabad... https://www.thenewsminute.com/article/denied-access-barbersh...?
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