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Microsoft to acquire ZeniMax Media and Bethesda Softworks for $7.5B

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Re: Microsoft to acquire ZeniMax Media and Bethesda Softworks for $7.5B

#131
Hmm, MS buying Obsidian was sad news, mainly because their titles became inaccessible on Mac/Linux.

This, not so much. Fallout 3 was the last great Bethesda title. Well and New Vegas but that was Obsidian.

Completely lost interest in them with Fallout 76.

Edit: Oh wait, there's also Dishonored since Arkane is owned by ZeniMax. But that was never available on non-windows OSes so it's not much of a loss.

Re: Microsoft to acquire ZeniMax Media and Bethesda Softworks for $7.5B

#132
It's interesting. Despite all the money that these studios have, my favorite games of the past few years have all been indie games (Rimworld, Factorio) or smaller studios (Paradox Plaza games such as EUIV, Stellaris). I understand that the majority of the industry's revenue is generated from these bigger studios, but acquiring first party developers doesn't make me as too concerned. What I'm concerned about is distribution is controlled by a few parties to a higher degree on desktop, like it is on mobile.

Re: Microsoft to acquire ZeniMax Media and Bethesda Softworks for $7.5B

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Bethesda Games are not going not be exclusive to Xbox -- Confirmed by Todd Howard: >Like our original partnership, this one is about more than one system or one screen. We share a deep belief in the fundamental power of games, in their ability to connect, empower, and bring joy. And a belief we should bring that to everyone - regardless of who you are, where you live, or what you play on. Regardless of the screen siz…

This reminds how the Oculus founder said that logging into Facebook to hop on VR would never be required.

Re: Microsoft to acquire ZeniMax Media and Bethesda Softworks for $7.5B

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post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nintendo is self-sustainable, Apple is exerting a lot of influence among smaller studios with Arcade. Like Annapurna Interactive (which is nota bene funded by Oracle).

Annapurna Interactive has had their name on so many creative, well-done projects recently. I had no idea they received funding from Oracle, but quite frankly that just makes me think (somewhat) better of Oracle, not less of Annapurna.

Annapurna was founded/is run by Megan Ellison, Larry Ellison's daughter, if it seems curious!

Re: Microsoft to acquire ZeniMax Media and Bethesda Softworks for $7.5B

#136

Soon we'll just have Microsoft, Epic, and a conglomeration of EA, Activision, and Ubisoft after Bobby Kotick forces them all to merge. Facebook will bungle up any chance they have of capturing the gaming market after writing a cryptic paragraph about their legal right to request blood samples from all Oculous users in the TOS. Valve will quietly exit software development altogether, and pivot to building custom vanit…

Sure, if you ate McDonald's every day you'd probably think that there are no good restaurants anymore. My top 4 games by playtime in the last few years were Rimworld, Oxygen Not Included, Dwarf Fortress and WoW Classic. Honorable mentions go to Spelunky and Stellaris. It's to everyone's great regret that a single one of these titles was purchased by one of the shitty publishers you mentioned, fortunately it's the one…

You make a good point to bring up indie development (WoW excluded), but I think looking at the storefronts is also important.

For these big conglomerates, the trendy thing is to have your own games store. Complete with exclusivity deals, privacy concerns, and plenty more.

That's not to say that every game on a store has these issues. However, I think the lesson from mobile app stores is: don't discount the impact that a storefront can have on what's allowed to succeed. Stores can exert their control with more than just removals.

Indies can't escape this. Even if they wanted to sell their game independently, not being on one of the big stores hurts visibility. Not all of them get the luxury to be able to expect their users to follow them to their own site/store/etc.

Right now, Steam is still the leader and obvious home for a lot of these otherwise-independent developers. Again, if the big conglomerates get what they want, this won't always be the case.

Re: Microsoft to acquire ZeniMax Media and Bethesda Softworks for $7.5B

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Soon we'll just have Microsoft, Epic, and a conglomeration of EA, Activision, and Ubisoft after Bobby Kotick forces them all to merge. Facebook will bungle up any chance they have of capturing the gaming market after writing a cryptic paragraph about their legal right to request blood samples from all Oculous users in the TOS. Valve will quietly exit software development altogether, and pivot to building custom vanit…

Microsoft and EA have some deal now revolving around Game Pass Ultimate which grants you access to EA Play also.

Re: Microsoft to acquire ZeniMax Media and Bethesda Softworks for $7.5B

#138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, the joke is funny but realistically it's clear that Valve is getting back in the game, so to speak, and we're probably going to see some VR followup to Alyx in the next year or two.

I dunno about this. The current consensus of community is that Dota 2 is dying and valve couldn't be bothered doing anything about it. Just cashing in while they can. And Dota 2 is by far their biggest game.

The International has been growing every year.

Re: Microsoft to acquire ZeniMax Media and Bethesda Softworks for $7.5B

#139

microsoft are seeing that the money is going to be made in a subscription model for games. by purchasing the studios it makes it much easier for them to bundle games (possibly with exclusivity) with their gamepass. i know i'm more likely to subscribe to gamepass (and keep it running for years) vs. the 1/2 games i buy a year.

Honestly, their investment into game pass and cloud streaming is currently making me choose an Android phone over the new iPhone. I feel like actual AAA gaming has never been more accessible than it is now.

I'm in the same boat. My current phone is a work-supplied iPhone, but next time I have to buy my own cell phone it will be an Android device for this reason.

I've only ever owned iPhone smartphones, but unless Apple changes their approach to game streaming services like xCloud or Stadia, I won't continue to be a customer.

Re: Microsoft to acquire ZeniMax Media and Bethesda Softworks for $7.5B

#140
post #75

Is there any chance future Fallout/Elder Scrolls game become XBox exclusives that do not get ported to PC?

I doubt this. Microsoft has spent last years integrating PC gaming under XBOX brand too. E.g. XBOX Game Pass for PC, or adding controller support etc.

They even promote so called "Xbox Play Anywhere", and tried to make it normal for the new XBOX so that you can buy a single game and play it on PC and XBOX. However the gaming studios haven't yet to my knowledge approved it fully so they want to sell you the game twice.

After all the PC gaming benefits Microsoft too.

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