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Re: What happened to Firefox Send?

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Post by sorenjan »

CodesInChaos wrote: post #100
rvba wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nearly all their "side projects" look like greenfields used by the project teams to boost their CVs so they can land better jobs. Those teams know very well that those projects have no use case, but they dont care. Foundation does not care either, since it is busy with increasing own remuneration and politics. Meanwhile their core product lost around 10 percentage points of market share (from 15% marketshare to 5%):…

> Recently they shipped Firefox for android that feels like alpha version. It is even unclear why did they ship it, they could have waited. Apart from extensions requiring whitelisting, how is it worse than the old mobile FF? I didn't notice any new bugs and it fixed the issues I had with the address bar hiding being fickle.

Bookmarks and top sites are only visible when opening a new tab, not when placing focus in the URL bar. If I want to go to a new site I have to either type the address, or open a new tab leading to a lot of old unused tabs that need to be cleaned up.

Re: What happened to Firefox Send?

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Post by AnonHP »

DavidSJ wrote: post #8
shp0ngle wrote: post #2

....oh. I have used it a few times in the past for the classic task "move large file between two computers that are next to each other, how the hell do I do this simply", but yeah, I can't see how that would be cost-effective for Firefox.

Between Unix-based machines on the same network my go-to is netcat. receiver$ nc -l 2000 > file sender$ nc receiver 2000 I usually check MD5 sums when I’m done.

Looks like you've got the receiver and sender commands reversed. The sender should use input redirection ( to read the file and the receiver should use output redirection (> file) to save the file.

Re: What happened to Firefox Send?

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Post by PetahNZ »

happypants23 wrote: post #119
rvba wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nearly all their "side projects" look like greenfields used by the project teams to boost their CVs so they can land better jobs. Those teams know very well that those projects have no use case, but they dont care. Foundation does not care either, since it is busy with increasing own remuneration and politics. Meanwhile their core product lost around 10 percentage points of market share (from 15% marketshare to 5%):…

If you think Firefox has stagnated you clearly aren't aware of the substantial and complex improvements that have been made to the firefox core over the last couple of years: * Faster Quantum Engine (multi-process architecture, etc) * Faster CSS rendering with Stylo * GPU-based rendering with WebRender Any Moz engineer who worked on the above will have boosted their CV's substantially. They don't need to work on tang…

How many people worked on these features vs how many are employed though?

Re: What happened to Firefox Send?

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Post by DavidSJ »

AnonHP wrote: post #132
DavidSJ wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Between Unix-based machines on the same network my go-to is netcat. receiver$ nc -l 2000 > file sender$ nc receiver 2000 I usually check MD5 sums when I’m done.

Looks like you've got the receiver and sender commands reversed. The sender should use input redirection ( to read the file and the receiver should use output redirection (> file) to save the file.

Look again. :) That's how I have it.

Re: What happened to Firefox Send?

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Post by rkachowski »

CodesInChaos wrote: post #100
rvba wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nearly all their "side projects" look like greenfields used by the project teams to boost their CVs so they can land better jobs. Those teams know very well that those projects have no use case, but they dont care. Foundation does not care either, since it is busy with increasing own remuneration and politics. Meanwhile their core product lost around 10 percentage points of market share (from 15% marketshare to 5%):…

> Recently they shipped Firefox for android that feels like alpha version. It is even unclear why did they ship it, they could have waited. Apart from extensions requiring whitelisting, how is it worse than the old mobile FF? I didn't notice any new bugs and it fixed the issues I had with the address bar hiding being fickle.

UI is significantly changed for the worse - things like tab handling (tabs go to the top of the list which may be hidden from view), swipe controls (close tab requires some weird "must swipe across 40% of the screen" motion to be recognised) and graphical issues have all suffered badly. It's not just a case of getting used to the new design, usability is an afterthought.

But yeah, the ability to use extensions on mobile was the key feature for me switching to firefox. Now I would just like to find a non-sucky-non-chromium browser.

Re: What happened to Firefox Send?

#137

Post by sorokod »

jfk13 wrote: post #101
rvba wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nearly all their "side projects" look like greenfields used by the project teams to boost their CVs so they can land better jobs. Those teams know very well that those projects have no use case, but they dont care. Foundation does not care either, since it is busy with increasing own remuneration and politics. Meanwhile their core product lost around 10 percentage points of market share (from 15% marketshare to 5%):…

> how many working on Firefox? 50? and 950 doing various (useless) side projects? You have a source for those numbers? It looks to me like you're just making them up because you want to sling mud.

Should not be too difficult to estimate the actual number: https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central

Same deal regarding people who work on FF vs those who work on FS

Re: What happened to Firefox Send?

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Post by johnchristopher »

mkayokay wrote: post #41
40four wrote: post #32

Too bad. I really enjoyed using it while it was up. The code is open source, and they have docs on how to set it up for self hosting. I wonder if there is a chance some active forks might live on? https://github.com/mozilla/send https://github.com/mozilla/send/blob/master/docs/deployment....

There is also a Dockerfile - might make ad-hoc deployment easier, but have not tested it: https://github.com/mozilla/send/blob/master/Dockerfile

I used it for a while but I found the docker setup strangely over-complicated in comparison to next/owncloud.

Also, the basic options to set up file link TTL and max number of downloads... If I remember correctly, it's one or the other. Not enough tweaking options for something with so much moving parts.

Re: What happened to Firefox Send?

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Post by rogerdpack »

jan6 wrote: post #31
DarkmSparks wrote: post #15

Hows firefox doing these days? I've not really used it since it used to run out of memory every few hours, did try it again after they rewrote everything but it was really buggy with half the sites I frequent not working.

I've never had any such problems in my life with FF... not even when opening over a thousand tabs (of course not all active at the same time, lol)... sux they removed actually useful extention format, but otherwise it's great, even if it's only on google's and cloudflare's life support, pretty much...

Tragically I installed it recently on mac and it "froze up" after awhile. Chrome never freezes for me. I like FF but dislike instability. Maybe it's just me...
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