iOS 14 is available today • Hacker News Board

Re: iOS 14 is available today

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Post by adamnemecek » Wed, Sep 16, 2020, 9:42 PM UTC

tribeca18 wrote: post #130

johnknowles wrote: post #128

"Powerful Updates to Messages", lol. Apple hasn't put an ounce of power into messaging. It's been 10 years, and they haven't innovated at all in the message space in any meaningful way (no, Memoji is not a meaningful extension of the messaging space). It's sad to see the lack of energy to actually create powerful and useful software, rather than to doing the bare minimum to compete in the smartphone market.

What's something you wish existed/suggest?

I feel like imessage takes up too much space to my computer hdd. It's like 25gb. Seems like a lot.

Re: iOS 14 is available today

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Post by dylan604 » Wed, Sep 16, 2020, 9:42 PM UTC

rafaelturk wrote: post #17

Now run and update your app... we're caught by surprise on this release

I've seen this a lot lately. I'm not an app developer, so forgive the ignorance. What was the surprise? The actual release date? Does Apple normally send out an email to devs saying you have 1 week until it drops? From my experience with Apple, the GM was always a closely held secret and divulging knowledge was grounds for loss of Apple privileges. Just curious what is so different this time.

Re: iOS 14 is available today

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Post by iOsiris » Wed, Sep 16, 2020, 9:42 PM UTC

varbhat wrote: post #108

Is there any mechanism to rollback to older versions if newer ones break ? PS. non iOS user here

No, once you upgrade with iOS, you're stuck on it as an user

Re: iOS 14 is available today

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Post by Zippogriff » Wed, Sep 16, 2020, 9:43 PM UTC

wayneftw wrote: post #105

Zippogriff wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1) I don't want to see the prompts to allow push notifications from a webapp, nor to have to go disable them. I just never want them. 2) Generally I'd rather none of the software I use be webtech, so anything that makes it easier to deliver webtech to my phone/tablet is a step the wrong direction. Yes I'm willing to have less total software in exchange. The point is that I don't want apps that are or will be native,…

> 1) I don't want to see the prompts to allow push notifications from a webapp... You wouldn't have to get them unless you proactively installed the PWA to your home screen. > 2) Generally I'd rather none of the software I use be webtech, so anything that makes it easier to deliver webtech to my phone/tablet is a step the wrong direction...so no-one can bug me about it or cajole me into using it. That's your only rea…

> Perhaps that's because you want the wrong thing for some reason.

I can't really parse this but from the best sense of it I can get, I reckon the most correct response is, "no, u".

[EDIT] Oh and also:

> You have never experienced this, so how could you possibly know? Also, no it wouldn't.

It's really incredible how often relatively straightforward conversations on HN end up veering, pointlessly, into theory of the mind and epistemology.

Re: iOS 14 is available today

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Post by dylan604 » Wed, Sep 16, 2020, 9:43 PM UTC

wayneftw wrote: post #113

butz wrote: post #48

Any news on PWA support front?

You're not allowed to ask this question when the Apple fans come by to vote on their favorite Apple stories :) Clearly these people love a tyrant and just can't imagine a PWA that only gets to ask for special permissions once the user proactively installs it to their home screen (or gasp having an option that lets everybody make their own choice on whether to opt into PWA notifications altogether). The guy simply sta…

Is it love of a tyrant or closer to Stockholm Syndrome?

Re: iOS 14 is available today

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Post by rock_artist » Wed, Sep 16, 2020, 9:43 PM UTC

One thing similar to Catalina with iOS 14 is the “over” security. It does nice to have scoped location permission or scoped photos access. But sometimes those permissions just pops up at a time when you’d click on them by mistake. For less techie people it would be impossible to go to settings and change it.

Re: iOS 14 is available today

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Post by nofunsir » Wed, Sep 16, 2020, 9:44 PM UTC

observr9 wrote: post #125

So, you still can't disable the pointless and annoying "message sent" tone in iMessage.

What about the low battery nags?

When will the huddled high-device-usage masses be free of 10 of these a day?

Re: iOS 14 is available today

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Post by nofunsir » Wed, Sep 16, 2020, 9:45 PM UTC

varbhat wrote: post #108

Is there any mechanism to rollback to older versions if newer ones break ? PS. non iOS user here

Only for as long as apple signs a given release.

Re: iOS 14 is available today

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Post by ryanwaggoner » Wed, Sep 16, 2020, 9:46 PM UTC

burntcookie90 wrote: post #114

divbzero wrote: post #102

Any Android users have insight into the uptake on Instant Apps [1] over the past three years? I’ll be curious how they and the new App Clips [2] in iOS 14 will evolve versus web apps. [1]: https://developer.android.com/topic/google-play-instant [2]: https://developer.apple.com/app-clips/

minimal to no usage, i expect to see `app-clips` deprecated by iOS 15

Totally disagree, I think app clips are huge and will get tons of traction.

Re: iOS 14 is available today

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Post by joshschreuder » Wed, Sep 16, 2020, 9:46 PM UTC

mkskm wrote: post #62

snazz wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And this is the first iOS release where I decided to get the beta on my primary device—I haven’t noticed any significant bugs or regressions. While it’s a perfectly reasonable decision to wait a bit, this has been the most stable beta I’ve used in years.

Have they fixed the regression with background apps being aggressively killed introduced in iOS 13.2? I still run into it daily even on iOS 13.7 with e.g. Yelp and Google Maps.

Which device are you on? This basically never happens to me on XS but does quite a lot on iPad Pro 9.6. I’m almost certain it’s just a result of how much memory your device has.