> The National Labor Relations Act of 1935 is a foundational statute of United States labor law which guarantees basic rights of private sector employees to organize into trade unions, engage in collective bargaining for better terms and conditions at work, and take collective action including strike if necessary. It's truly late stage capitalism if companies can impede labor organizing so brazenly in public like thi…
Amazon deletes job listings for analysts to track ‘labor organizing threats’
131–140 of 458 posts
Re: Amazon deletes job listings for analysts to track ‘labor organizing threats’
#132Re: Amazon deletes job listings for analysts to track ‘labor organizing threats’
#133The relevant excerpts from the job listings: >Analysts must be capable of engaging and informing L7+ ER Principals (attorney stakeholders) on sensitive topics that are highly confidential, including labor organizing threats against the company, establish and track funding and activities connected to corporate campaigns (internal and external) against Amazon, and provide sophisticated analysis on these topics >Analyst…
Re: Amazon deletes job listings for analysts to track ‘labor organizing threats’
#134Not surprised. Tech companies (Facebook and Google in this case, and probably others) have been known to retain Pinkerton agents to monitor employees. Yes, those Pinkertons. “Among other services, Pinkerton offers to send investigators to coffee shops or restaurants near a company’s campus to eavesdrop on employees’ conversations.” https://newrepublic.com/article/147619/pinkertons-still-neve...
This is awesome in a very very sad way. Several years ago, I started working for a company that was in the build up to a Yea/Nay vote for joining the union. During that time, 2 "goons" showed up at my apartment to discuss the benefits of joining the union and why not joining would be bad. However, these very "intelligent" goons showed up during the day, you know, working hours where I had a very low chance of being h…
Re: Amazon deletes job listings for analysts to track ‘labor organizing threats’
#135Earlier quoted context omitted.
I used quotes because I was quoting my flatmate. She said their demeanor was not welcoming at all, and it felt very aggressive. I kind of wish I was there just so I could have told them what I thought, but spilled milk and what not.
Not saying this is the case, but it occurs to me... that would be a good way to sabotage the start of an union. Just send some aggressive people posing like members of the union.
The Pinkertons have been busting unions for over a century - they have pretty much explored the full range of options for worker suppression available to capital.
False flags can be a powerful tool (but becoming less so, as surveillance makes deniability harder).
Re: Amazon deletes job listings for analysts to track ‘labor organizing threats’
#136Re: Amazon deletes job listings for analysts to track ‘labor organizing threats’
#137Earlier quoted context omitted.
What makes you call them goons? Politicians, activists, all sorts of people go door knocking around the time of elections and referendums. What made this interaction so different that you call them goons sent there to intimidate you, not activists trying to attract your vote?
Union activists in the UK have a reputation of being bullies, and in some cases in the past they've used physical violence to try to get people to do things their way. At the height of union fever back in the 80s it got so bad at one point that union activists dropped a concrete block on someone's head from a bridge because he was trying to get into work and they thought he should be striking (David Wilkie.) I would…
If you’re a righteous person, then by extension everything you do is by definition clothed in righteousness.
Re: Amazon deletes job listings for analysts to track ‘labor organizing threats’
#138Earlier quoted context omitted.
HN is not the best platform to from anti-capitalism sentiments. There's a lot of privilege here and it makes people pretty blind to how awful capitalism is (and the things it creates, like anti-union sentiment).
Yes, capitalism is awful, but it's by far the best idea we've got.
It took years of fixing the system with child labour laws, union laws, anti-discrimination laws, factory strikes, workers riots, civil rights laws, minimum wage, etc.
Capitalism works in the Nations where it does because of years of regulation to make it more fair and to weed out exploitation.
People wanting to dismantle the state right now (and make no mistake, many of these riots have a lot of anarco-anti-cap/antifa people in them causing the violence) do not understand they will not get a better State. They'll be lucky to get some stable regions, but when a State falls there's a power vacuum. Then you have to start over .. and there will be a ton of corruption until you get everything "right" again.
Re: Amazon deletes job listings for analysts to track ‘labor organizing threats’
#139The relevant excerpts from the job listings: >Analysts must be capable of engaging and informing L7+ ER Principals (attorney stakeholders) on sensitive topics that are highly confidential, including labor organizing threats against the company, establish and track funding and activities connected to corporate campaigns (internal and external) against Amazon, and provide sophisticated analysis on these topics >Analyst…
Nice! It's always good to see corporates fight against elected politicians that are hostile to projects like HQ 2. This is not dystopian at all.
Re: Amazon deletes job listings for analysts to track ‘labor organizing threats’
#140Why would Amazon want to prevent workers from unionizing? Look what it did for teaching, policing, mail delivery, port security, taxi driving, waste management, public service, and construction.
Public unions are somewhat problematic, I'll give you that. Police are the best example of overpowered unions. Police forces often have tremendous leverage against local governments which makes it hard to keep them in line. What's happened in NYC anytime minor reforms are tried is a disgrace.
I guess what I'm saying is that I don't have a problem with workers trying to unionize while recognizing that unions do have issues. Amazon warehouse workers are on the ground doing potentially dangerous work on fast moving floors with robots flying around. I think those people have a right to get paid a living wage given Amazon's profits.
Basically, if you treat your employees happy, they won't have any reason to attempt to unionize.