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It's really hard to feel bad for a Chinese entity when tens of thousands of small businesses across the country have had their business effectively bankrupted on account of arbitrary government action that is no fault of their own.
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I am coming to believe that what we are seeing is a kind of "race" to see which aspiring superpowers will eventually control (or own) the main companies that are intentionally the most successful in invading the privacy of citizens. People can only inhabit a finite number of social media networks, and there can eventually only be a fairly small number of big players in a position to produce massively detailed rich pr…
There's definitely an element of this at play. This was stated pretty explicitly in the case of Grindr, a dating app for gay men. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/28/us/politics/grindr-china-...
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Cynical answer: This is about creating chaos and allowing some buyer to get a really good deal. The hoped outcome is that that buyer will support trumps re-election and the headlines about china will rally support but that the damage won't be enough to cause China to act back. Less cynical answer: wider action would require congress to be involved and congress is permanently gridlocked
Yeah, this isn't a perspective I've seen anyone elucidate, and I don't have any evidence for it, but my gut says that it's a corrupt play intended to force sale/some other tawdry goal. Or maybe they just want to get back at those "tiktok teens."
Of course, we're now deep into my opinions :)
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Adults watch TikTok for voting suggestions? The American society is getting weirder every day.
Adults believe in every picture with a caption or video with text and sad music in it, as long as it doesn't have any clear association with a government. After all, it's not propaganda if the source is private, and the message is ostensibly made for teh lulz, right?
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They are not comparable. Quote form fortune[1]: Kai-Fu Lee, a leading artificial intelligence expert who heads the tech investment firm Sinovation Ventures, worked for Google in China between 2005 and 2009. (Until 2009, Google operated a separate, censored version of its search engine in China.) He said in a Chinese-language statement on Tuesday that Google's experience in China and TikTok's case in the U.S. are "not…
you forgot to mention that china has hacked google. "In mid-December, we detected a highly sophisticated and targeted attack on our corporate infrastructure originating from China that resulted in the theft of intellectual property from Google" [1] [1] https://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/01/new-approach-to-chin...
NSA also hacked Huawei in 2013.[2]
The US companies should be thankful that EU didn't block them.
[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM_(surveillance_program)#/...
[2]: https://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/23/world/asia/nsa-breached-c...
This is retaliation for China's unfair practices. It's not about propaganda, what videos are allowed or disallowed, or who might see which videos you watch. It's about the fact that valuable US tech companies aren't allowed to compete in China. If they were the trade deficit wouldn't nearly as bad. Now the Trump administration is hitting back. This is plainly and simply: Screw you, we're going to take something succe…
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Thats not really why they are worried about TikTok, it comes back to the issue of the CCP and and that China defacto owns TikTok which means that information can be harvested. This is G5 controversy all over. The brainwashing part is just noise. The real concern is real given Chinas history.
I mean FB has a lot of information about users, have you seen how you are tagged in the ads ? Any private person can target any subgroup and we know that FB transferred this data to different companies in the past, the probability that some government somewhere that wanted the FB data does not have it yet (maybe a bit outdated) is Zero. Let's assume you block all applications that are suspected of relations with CCP…
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> try critiquing the CCP on TikTok. Watch it get removed instantaneously. You can even call them nazis without it getting removed: https://www.tiktok.com/tag/chinazi Now if you tried that on Douyin, the results would be different, but Douyin is available in China while TikTok isn't, so Chinese censorship applies to Douyin while it doesn't apply to TikTok.
> You can even call them nazis without it getting removed Which is why there is something called "Blacklisted tags" and it has been used towards QAnon posts [0] and on BLM posts. [1] Some tags get shadow-banned so that it doesn't appear on TikTok. The users here take a new hashtag so that it can be searchable. This form of censorship still applies to TikTok. [0] https://www.theverge.com/2020/7/25/21338615/tiktok-qano…
However.
The whole world sees "The West" in general, and US in particular, as a place, where The Rule Of Law, and in general, some respect for the Rules, even for adversaries, is more important than in other places. That's why Russian oligarchs sue each other in London's courts. That's why millions of the most educated, the most creative, the most productive people immigrate to US and other capitalist countries from former Soviet block and not the other way around. Of course, US is not paradise, and everybody how ugly and criminal can it be sometimes; but still, compared to what other parts of the world look like, it's still a City upon a hill. Yes, US is a corrupt, racist country with a lot of deep internal problems, and yet it is still the best champion for democratic values we've got on the whole planet. (Some smaller European countries can have a better record, but they're just not significant enough to have a real influence).
And despite how awful TikTok is, and how I would applaud their demise, these executive orders, which directly violate these core ideals of western civilisation, damage not only US, but these ideals itself in the long run. I'm still amazed that a private company can sue the government and have a real hope at winning — if you're American, you may not realise how precious that possibility even is. And I really hope it does win.
Zuck s been busy fighting Tiktok with tooth n nail. He knows he lost his prime users to Tiktok. No youngsters use FB anymore. But FB can do this in India and its ok ? https://www.wsj.com/articles/facebook-executive-supported-in...
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