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Re: YouTube: Community contributions will be discontinued across all channels

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Just noticed that Google Maps translates a lot of German business names into English, which is exactly what I don't want when I’m driving along, looking for their sign. There’s enough “Denglish” (intentional use of English-like terms) in use by Germans themselves that this adds rather than removes confusion for non-native German speakers. For example, “Stoffe Bauer” into “Fabric Farmer” - Bauer is a common family nam…

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Re: YouTube: Community contributions will be discontinued across all channels

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lol, that's terrible. And a great example of lacking context. Youtube also seems to randomly machine translate video titles into German for me, but weirdly enough only sometimes, for some videos. And has a similar problem that short labels etc just don't work if translated by something not optimized for it - and that a German channel probably would use English words in many cases...

Same for random English to Swedish translations.

So that is what is happening sometimes on my YT... I live in Sweden but I'm not Swedish (can understand it but prefer English when possible), don't even have my Google account or YouTube set to Swedish so I have no idea it's translating them for me. Location-based perhaps but that would be a bit stupid.

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The federation of peertube instances, which I feel will eventually be the most critical alternative of all: https://instances.joinpeertube.org/instances

I have a random question about peertube hope you guys dont mind. Can I run a background task on my machine to help in some way with making the content of some instance more available to people, or would I have to run my own instance?

I think you can torrent the video and they should then also be served from your machine.

Re: YouTube: Community contributions will be discontinued across all channels

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Just noticed that Google Maps translates a lot of German business names into English, which is exactly what I don't want when I’m driving along, looking for their sign. There’s enough “Denglish” (intentional use of English-like terms) in use by Germans themselves that this adds rather than removes confusion for non-native German speakers. For example, “Stoffe Bauer” into “Fabric Farmer” - Bauer is a common family nam…

auto translate and location based results in general drive me up the wall. I always go to google.com/ncr because I really hate googling something in English and then getting a ton of German results that are super irrelevant.

On Bing this is somehow even worse, if you do a video search and you have the location setting wrong it just flatout doesn't show 90% of the reuslts for some queries.

Re: YouTube: Community contributions will be discontinued across all channels

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> I don't think this functionality was as little-used as the support post represents. I've used it a little bit, and been watching a bunch of content that relied on it. That said, creating subtitles with their tools was an absolute shit experience. I've done my fair share of subtitling using other programs, and it's clear that whoever made the interface on YT hasn't really used the real deal, and doesn't understand w…

Could you recommend a tool that does subtitles and generates a .srt afterwards, from your experience? I have a friend that translates everything from English for his grandmother, so she can watch movies that she does not understand, but he does it by hand in a video editing program. Would love to help him out.

I've tested a couple of the popular free ones, and settled on Aegisub. The default keybindings drove me nuts, they're not very ergonomic, but at least you can fix that easily.

.srt is the lowest common denominator for subtitle files, every subtitling program can import and export those. It's a pretty dumb format though, my biggest issue with it is that it doesn't have support for fixed-position left-aligned subtitles, and it doesn't have support for specifying the font. I understand why, it's to make playback much simpler and resolution-independent, which is why every single video player program or hardware device in existence has support for it.

But if you left-align it with a fixed margin, choose a good font, and use white text on black background, your subtitles are going to be so much easier to read.

(Here's a sample of what I prefer: https://skamenglishsubs.tumblr.com/post/188037245260/subtext...)

Re: YouTube: Community contributions will be discontinued across all channels

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> Once you have same language captions for a video, your community can submit translations to help you reach a global audience. Oh so they realized it's free labour and whant the users to train their speech recognition AI.

And much like Google 411 they are probably killing it now that their model has reached a saddle point with spam removal costs.

Re: YouTube: Community contributions will be discontinued across all channels

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https://amara.org/en/ is an alternative service, but probably even less discoverable for most viewers.

Is there any way for me as a creator to pipe in subtitles from that service automatically into YouTube’s captions? Because then you could have one person go there, write the subtitles, have the creator approve it and then all of the viewers can see them.

You can enable the YT integration if you are the owner of the channel.

https://support.amara.org/support/solutions/articles/40227-l...

Re: YouTube: Community contributions will be discontinued across all channels

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post #95

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Could you recommend a tool that does subtitles and generates a .srt afterwards, from your experience? I have a friend that translates everything from English for his grandmother, so she can watch movies that she does not understand, but he does it by hand in a video editing program. Would love to help him out.

I've tested a couple of the popular free ones, and settled on Aegisub. The default keybindings drove me nuts, they're not very ergonomic, but at least you can fix that easily. .srt is the lowest common denominator for subtitle files, every subtitling program can import and export those. It's a pretty dumb format though, my biggest issue with it is that it doesn't have support for fixed-position left-aligned subtitles…

Isn't that left aligned? Am I missing something?

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Even trying to use popular software in a relatively big language like Spanish still inevitably ends up producing lots of untranslated strings (or worse, semi-translated nonsense). I always set my software to en-us, even though that mightn't be my preferred language or dialect, because it's the only way I can be sure the developers actually checked it.

I've seen that too and I simply don't understand that. Why do some people half-translate an app? Did they just hardcode some of the copy by accident?

They translated it once years ago, likely using external resources. My team has had this issue; we made internationalized versions of our website once, years ago, and it was quite expensive and used external language contractors. Then the i18n versions gradually fell out of date as we continually updated the English version (because that's what we full-time devs speak). Eventually, years later, the i18n versions were hopelessly out of date and turned down, because it wasn't worth paying for another round of internationalization on them given how little it turns out they were used.

Re: YouTube: Community contributions will be discontinued across all channels

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post #112

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lol, that's terrible. And a great example of lacking context. Youtube also seems to randomly machine translate video titles into German for me, but weirdly enough only sometimes, for some videos. And has a similar problem that short labels etc just don't work if translated by something not optimized for it - and that a German channel probably would use English words in many cases...

Same from English to Dutch, I wonder what triggers that, is it something the video owners has to enable? or does it only happen when there are good subtitles available (either community provided or auto-translated)

I've seen the same video appear with English title one day and with German title another day. I've also seen translated titles on Russian videos without any subtitles (I don't speak Russian, video was still interesting).

I suspect the suggestion/front page algorithm has a new branch, suggesting a small number of interesting-to-you foreign language videos with translated titles and adjusting from there.

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