How about just not having life goals in the first place? Then you don't have to give up on them, and don't need to get sad about it
Perseverance Toward Life Goals Can Fend Off Depression, Anxiety, Panic Disorders
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#132There's a ship. It has no captain, no crew. Where is it going? There's another ship. It has a captain and crew but no destination is set. Where is it going? There's another ship. It has captain, crew, destination but no course is set. Where is it going? There's another ship. It has captain, crew, destination and a course set. Everyone is ready to go and intends to go. Where is it going? Only one of these ships will s…
And there are the people who stay on the beach surfing(possibly even in bad weather), building sand castle hydro dams, or looking at crabs in the rock pools.
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#133We 've established by now that correlation equals causation, to our preferred direction.
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#134But what are you sacrificing in return for your “perseverance”? Very few people tend to look at the mind as a system, and also seem to ignore that depression, anxiety, panic disorders, etc. happen for a reason. The reason why modern humanity have increased risk of these symptoms is because they know, given their perhaps wrongly learned models of the world or otherwise, that even when they achieve their so-called life…
I disagree, perseverance is not the same as goal-seeking for goal seeking's sake, or at least, it doesn't have to be. Twenty years ago I set a thirty year goal, literally bet my life on it. It wasn't until two years ago that I was reasonably sure it had a chance of success. I had to, and continue to basically give up everything, no one funds very long term research, so I had to learn to live on less than $200 a month…
Can you share details on what you're working on? Or where we can follow the upcoming announcements about your work?
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#135Yes to this. I often counsel my younger friends to have a "mission". Then once that is completed, to find another one. In fact, one can have multiple missions running at the same time. It's rarely said that marriage, kids, job, degree, a house, car, and most physical things are not missions. And in fact, most of these things -- unless accompanied by a "why am i doing this" and attendant missions/goals do not lead to…
That sounds somewhat along the lines of Warren Buffet's 5/25 rule.
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#136I developed https://www.activegoals.net with mental health in mind especially since I deal a lot with the autism community who usually have poor executive functioning.
I couldn't play the video on your site in chrome on android even after downloading it. It played in vlc. Maybe check your codec
Re: Perseverance Toward Life Goals Can Fend Off Depression, Anxiety, Panic Disorders
#137...until it fails. I am a person who's perseverance towards my life goals caused depression, anxiety, and panic disorders. And almost my life.
I wanted to become a top scientist. Yet, the academic path is full of disillusionment (mainly with the system). Perseverance gave me the power to go through sacrifices one after another and to carry on. However, only after I let it go (and turning to data science / deep learning), I became much happier and emotionally stable. (A longer version here: https://p.migdal.pl/2015/12/14/sci-to-data-sci.html)
"Perseverance is good" is a dangerous survival bias fallacy.
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#138There's a ship. It has no captain, no crew. Where is it going? There's another ship. It has a captain and crew but no destination is set. Where is it going? There's another ship. It has captain, crew, destination but no course is set. Where is it going? There's another ship. It has captain, crew, destination and a course set. Everyone is ready to go and intends to go. Where is it going? Only one of these ships will s…
Destination and course aren't really that important.
"Lets head out - somewhere - and find somewhere interesting, or some people that are interesting, and stop when we find something that fits. We might fail a few times, but it'll be an adventure"
The middle two ships can do this just fine. It just depends on your perspective and what you want from it.
I've been told much of my life that I should be following the ways of the last ship: But to tell you the truth, the only way I'm going to get some of the things I really want is through luck - and to a point, work that I don't really want to do, if we are being honest. But following that 'interesting' thing? It has worked out really well.
It means that bad weather isn't really an issue either - that just leads me to different things of interest. Hopefully, I don't get a surge of ship-destroying plagues. I'm unfortunately close to that - I was diagnosed with MS 1.5 to 2 years ago. But hey, my stuff is pretty mild right now (and I'm over 40) and hopefully it stays that way.
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#139Earlier quoted context omitted.
> seem to ignore that depression, anxiety, panic disorders, etc. happen for a reason ...no? In almost all cases, these syndromes are not appropriate responses to the environmental stimulus. OCD is not adaptive in any situation. Neither is Tourette's. Neither is anorexia nervosa. Neither is akinetic mutism. Neither is tardive dyskinesia. (Hypomania and ADHD-PI might be adaptive in exceptional environments — there's so…
Yikes. You make some pretty strong claims that are not credible on their face. 1. "Not adaptive in any situation..." Putting aside the many problems with evolutionary psychological explanations (just-so theory, underdetermination, so-called disjunction and grain problems), there's actually an very strong argument to OCD's adaptive role, both at the individual (threat response) and group. I think the group argument is…
Like the OCD ants that keep on like normal when the rest of the nest freaks out.
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#140i agree