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How to damage your brand in one smooth shot - Way to GoDaddy

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Re: How to damage your brand in one smooth shot - Way to GoDaddy

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I guess I'll be the lone discenting voice and say I don't think it's that bad. Bob Parsons has always run his company the way he wants, and he has particular freedom to do so since he has zero investors and is the sole owner. He does certain things for shock value, such as the super bowl commercials, which by the way caused outage with a completely different demographic of people. Slaughtering an elephant might offen…

While I respect your opinions in support of Parsons, I'm going to have to disagree with you on a lot of your arguments. >Bob Parsons has always run his company the way he wants, and he has particular freedom to do so since he has zero investors and is the sole owner Parsons does have the freedom to do what he likes but there are consequences to those actions. No one is questioning his freedom to do what he chooses. >…

> Not sure if you read the article but Jacques specifically states there's a clear difference between a rich dude shooting the Elephant and a native Zimbabwean game warden doing it to protect his crops (which btw, there are many other ways of going about that than shooting it). The psychology behind the former doing it can be extremely powerful (and enraging) compared to the latter.

That's a great point. I mostly agree with the GP, but the symbolism of Parsons' actions is really powerful.

Re: How to damage your brand in one smooth shot - Way to GoDaddy

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I guess I'll be the lone discenting voice and say I don't think it's that bad. Bob Parsons has always run his company the way he wants, and he has particular freedom to do so since he has zero investors and is the sole owner. He does certain things for shock value, such as the super bowl commercials, which by the way caused outage with a completely different demographic of people. Slaughtering an elephant might offen…

It's not so much about slaughtering the elephant as it is exploitation of the villagers to promote his company. It's like he's saying to them "Fine. I'll help you. I'll get rid of this elephant and save your crops and even feed you for a day or two, but you will have to wear my hats when you slaughter it". If this is more a philanthropic gesture, are the hats necessary? Should Bill Gates require every kid who is saved from malaria wear Microsoft t-shirts?

Re: How to damage your brand in one smooth shot - Way to GoDaddy

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>I can understand how this might offend vegetarians but even then, it's not like the animal was wasted. I think you're confusing vegetarians with people who dig frugality.

Exactly. Vegetarians have problems with killing...period.

That's not true. Vegetarians have a problem eating meat, hence the vege- prefix. I'm a vegetarian and have no problem with killing, especially for food. I'm just not going to eat meat.

Re: How to damage your brand in one smooth shot - Way to GoDaddy

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Let's see who this outrage is coming from: 1) Someone who has never gone hungry for a single day in his/her life. 2) Someone who has consumed 100s of chickens, many cattle, and many other animals so far... Most of which have been literally tortured all their lives. 3) Someone who has never gone to Africa to help, but sits around all day posting his/her opinion on how things there (and everywhere else in the world) sh…

oh screw off. He killed an elephant, an endangered animal, for fun. People should be outraged at that. So what if people "eat" meat, or haven't faced poverty or even been outside of their own town, let alone country. That doesn't mean they don't have a right to an opinion or to express it, unless of course that opinion is that other people shouldn't be allowed to have their own opinions... which is what you've basically just said.

Re: How to damage your brand in one smooth shot - Way to GoDaddy

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As someone who has worked with ecologists in the field on a number of wildlife projects in rural Africa, I find this to be truly repugnant. There are many ways of controlling "problem elephants" other than killing them -- in fact, killing an elephant is almost never an option. If the villagers don't have the financial resources to implement non-lethal control measures, I'm sure Bob Parsons does.

> As someone who has worked with ecologists in the field on a number of wildlife projects in rural Africa, I find this to be truly repugnant.

Really? You know that the majority of ecologists support Elephant Culling (killing elephant family groups wholesale from helicopters)?

> There are many ways of controlling "problem elephants" other than killing them

There is an oversupply of elephants and an undersupply of space. Killing a lone elephant bull is no problem.

I find it sad that a lot of damage is done to the ecosystem and to other animals (which may not be as pretty as elephants) because some groups (such as PETA) opposed elephant culling.

How long does it take for a tree to grow? How long for a beautiful Baobab? Do you know how quickly an elephant fucks up a tree? Elephants are not an endangered specie –they are often a plague (due to limited natural predators, long life expectancy and the availability of water).

And unfortunately due to stupid laws (making hunting difficult and other requirements) it is very expensive for private game farms to have animals.

I fail to see how anyone opposes elephant culling can label himself as an ecologist.

--PLEASE READ THIS ARTICLE--:

http://hubpages.com/hub/Elephant-culling-in-Africa

Re: How to damage your brand in one smooth shot - Way to GoDaddy

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So, to recap: sexist advertising campaigns for the benefit of the entire company == OK; the CEO shooting an elephant == boycott. To be clear, I'm in no way agreeing with his actions, but it was getting fed up with the advertising that got me to dump GoDaddy for DynDNS long before anything like this occurred.

Umm -- YES! Sexist advertising campaign = Silly, but I am not going to choose or drop a registrar based on that. CEO shooting an innocent animal = A company that I don't want to do business with. You aren't trying to say that showing some scantily clad women is equivalent to killing, are you?

You are connecting the actions of the CEO with the actions of the company. I am making a point about the culture of a company that actively promotes themselves with sexist advertising campaigns. They are free to do as they wish and I am free to suggest that supporting a company that promotes themselves in this manner is also supporting the attitude in our culture that 'women==objects for our amusement' and is rewarding them for adopting that attitude for profit.

[addressing a sibling comment] Yes, the actors in the ads are willing participants...and that matters why?

One useful way we have of responding to corporations is by not participating in their activity if we do not agree with them. And yet, this ability is horribly underused. Don't like sexism? Don't support companies that rely on it. Don't like violence? Don't support companies that participate in it?

I just find it interesting where people draw the lines.

Re: How to damage your brand in one smooth shot - Way to GoDaddy

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In the grand scheme of things, my 27 domains switched from GoDaddy won't change much from their company's perspective, but I will not continue to use them as a domain registrar because of this.

Actually, it will. What if a 1000 customers like you who own 10 domains do it at the same day? They sure HAVE to notice it. I've already transferred my domains and I'll make sure I won't buy any from GoDaddy again. GoDaddy already has one of the scammiest UIs I've ever come across (with a possible exception of, maybe, MySpace) and the recent elephant killing was the last straw!

It's a private company, run by a very opinionated individual with a demonstrated lack of concern for the feelings of others.

He might notice, but he's making so much money that I really doubt he cares.

Re: How to damage your brand in one smooth shot - Way to GoDaddy

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I guess I'll be the lone discenting voice and say I don't think it's that bad. Bob Parsons has always run his company the way he wants, and he has particular freedom to do so since he has zero investors and is the sole owner. He does certain things for shock value, such as the super bowl commercials, which by the way caused outage with a completely different demographic of people. Slaughtering an elephant might offen…

While I respect your opinions in support of Parsons, I'm going to have to disagree with you on a lot of your arguments. >Bob Parsons has always run his company the way he wants, and he has particular freedom to do so since he has zero investors and is the sole owner Parsons does have the freedom to do what he likes but there are consequences to those actions. No one is questioning his freedom to do what he chooses. >…

I'd assume this statement was more offensive to vegetarians than watching that video. I'd assume that b/c I am one.

So what if you're offended? That's no reason for the other side of a rational argument to change their argument in reaction to you being offended, so it's irrelevant.

Re: How to damage your brand in one smooth shot - Way to GoDaddy

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You should move your domains away for reasons like constant up sales and other crappy tactics to keep you from your domains, not because the CEO shot a elephant in a different country.

Agreed. There are millions of people getting scammed and ruined by fat-cats everywhere, and an elephant is what it takes for people to get mad? Wake up, everyone. I hate asshats like the GoDaddy CEO just as much as you do, but this self-righteous indignation is at The View levels right now.

Perhaps some of us care more about endangered species than those getting scammed around the world? Just a thought.
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