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Re: Trump administration establishes $75M quantum computing centers

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Post by _8091149529 »

dandanua wrote: post #125
_8091149529 wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's tempting to dismiss that write-up due to its incendiary style, but I find that many of its "factory floor" level insights ring true to me. As an experimentalist, I would agree with the sentiment that the potential future applications of Quantum computing probably receive too much media attention, given the maturity level of existing technology. The technical arguments as to why building a useful QC will be impos…

John Martinis emphasized in his talks that they didn't observe any correlations between local errors in the Sycamore and the total error can be computed through the "high school probability theory" from the local errors. This pretty much silences deniers who used this totally made-up argument against quantum computing.

Yes, to an extent, but the case is not closed by any means. From memory, the logical error rate target is 1e-12. Clearly, quite a sizeable leap of faith is needed to extrapolate from the Martinis results to this value.

Re: Trump administration establishes $75M quantum computing centers

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Post by _8091149529 »

dandanua wrote: post #125
_8091149529 wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's tempting to dismiss that write-up due to its incendiary style, but I find that many of its "factory floor" level insights ring true to me. As an experimentalist, I would agree with the sentiment that the potential future applications of Quantum computing probably receive too much media attention, given the maturity level of existing technology. The technical arguments as to why building a useful QC will be impos…

John Martinis emphasized in his talks that they didn't observe any correlations between local errors in the Sycamore and the total error can be computed through the "high school probability theory" from the local errors. This pretty much silences deniers who used this totally made-up argument against quantum computing.

Continuing:

Google (or anyone else) hasn't shown an implementation of an error correcting code, so we do not have data points for a model-free "ruler extrapolation" of logical error rate vs. lattice size.

In fact, I think the Sycamore qubits were "pre-threshold", i.e. no error correction gain possible even in theory. I wonder if someone will correct/confirm me. I remember the readout fidelity was particularly poor.

Furthermore, I would argue that the large readout errors make the observed scaling of total error slightly less impactful.

But don't get me wrong, it's still a monumental achievement.

Re: Trump administration establishes $75M quantum computing centers

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Post by scollet »

zimmern wrote: post #128
germinalphrase wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The popular suggestion - with regard to your specific example - is that the president himself is directly supporting those federal actions in Portland (against the wishes of state leadership and law enforcement) because appearing strong on crime is politically beneficial for his re-election. There is no other reason for those officers to be present, refuse to wear uniforms, or use civilian vehicles. The But then, I’m…

>>>There is no other reason for those officers to be present Looting? Vandalism? Rioting? Violence? Failure of local government to do anything about it?

You're ignoring the forest for the trees. Were you listening when the extrajudicial killings incited these peaceful protests?

Re: Trump administration establishes $75M quantum computing centers

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Post by _-david-_ »

germinalphrase wrote: post #92
fooker wrote: post #76

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Do you also consider it a peculiarity that all failures of the federal government are attributed to the president? Example: "Trump sent militia to Portland to put protesters into unmarked vans.". Or is this attribution a worry only when something good happens?

The popular suggestion - with regard to your specific example - is that the president himself is directly supporting those federal actions in Portland (against the wishes of state leadership and law enforcement) because appearing strong on crime is politically beneficial for his re-election. There is no other reason for those officers to be present, refuse to wear uniforms, or use civilian vehicles. The But then, I’m…

Trump is also directly supporting the US beating China in technology. He doesn't care how it is done or what the technology is. This is just like he doesn't care how riots are stopped just that they are stopped. It wouldn't be the least bit surprising if he told somebody on his team to get it done and they handled the arrangements.

>because appearing strong on crime is politically beneficial for his re-election. There is no other reason for those officers to be present,

Maybe he genuinely wants to stop crime? You shouldn't assume somebody's reasons for doing stuff when you don't actually have any proof.

> refuse to wear uniforms

Do you have an example? All videos I have seen have uniforms, just not the normal police uniforms.

> or use civilian vehicles.

This is extremely common throughout the west under certain circumstances. It is especially common for federal agencies more so than state / local. The reason you use civilian vehicles is to prevent the person you are trying to apprehend from realizing you are police. If somebody knows they are going to be arrested they may flee or grab a weapon. Some of the people they are arresting are quite possibly the same people who have thrown bricks at police officers. Some of the police have been hit in the head with bricks. Its completely understandable an officer wouldn't want give the suspect additional time to get a weapon when dealing with people like that.

Re: Trump administration establishes $75M quantum computing centers

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Post by germinalphrase »

_-david-_ wrote: post #135
germinalphrase wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The popular suggestion - with regard to your specific example - is that the president himself is directly supporting those federal actions in Portland (against the wishes of state leadership and law enforcement) because appearing strong on crime is politically beneficial for his re-election. There is no other reason for those officers to be present, refuse to wear uniforms, or use civilian vehicles. The But then, I’m…

Trump is also directly supporting the US beating China in technology. He doesn't care how it is done or what the technology is. This is just like he doesn't care how riots are stopped just that they are stopped. It wouldn't be the least bit surprising if he told somebody on his team to get it done and they handled the arrangements. >because appearing strong on crime is politically beneficial for his re-election. Ther…

The explicit purpose of a uniform is to associate an individual with an organization (e.g. the Department of Homeland Security, the Federal Bureau of Prison, etc) that vests them with specific authorities - for example, the authority to detain and charge citizens with crimes.

These actors in Portland do not wear patches, badges, names, or other identifying features that associate them with any authority. Camouflage clothing can be purchased by anyone with the Internet and a credit card. A badge number can’t. This distinction is important to maintain a free society.

I’m not going to explain the history of secret police and political disappearances. Go read about the Dirty War in Argentina for a taste.

Re: Trump administration establishes $75M quantum computing centers

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Post by _-david-_ »

germinalphrase wrote: post #137
_-david-_ wrote: post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Trump is also directly supporting the US beating China in technology. He doesn't care how it is done or what the technology is. This is just like he doesn't care how riots are stopped just that they are stopped. It wouldn't be the least bit surprising if he told somebody on his team to get it done and they handled the arrangements. >because appearing strong on crime is politically beneficial for his re-election. Ther…

The explicit purpose of a uniform is to associate an individual with an organization (e.g. the Department of Homeland Security, the Federal Bureau of Prison, etc) that vests them with specific authorities - for example, the authority to detain and charge citizens with crimes. These actors in Portland do not wear patches, badges, names, or other identifying features that associate them with any authority. Camouflage c…

>The explicit purpose of a uniform is to associate an individual with an organization (e.g. the Department of Homeland Security, the Federal Bureau of Prison, etc) that vests them with specific authorities - for example, the authority to detain and charge citizens with crimes.

Nice job changing the goal posts.

>These actors in Portland do not wear patches, badges, names, or other identifying features that associate them with any authority.

Are you sure? I have heard there actually are badges on the uniforms. I have only seen pictures and videos on my phone so I could not tell personally if that is the case.

Will you please provide a video / picture of the uniforms?

> Camouflage clothing can be purchased by anyone with the Internet and a credit card. A badge number can’t. This distinction is important to maintain a free society.

Anybody can buy a fake police uniform and badge as well. Amazon has multiple for cheap.

I doubt I would know a real police uniform from a fake one.

Re: Trump administration establishes $75M quantum computing centers

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Post by nomad543 »

dandanua wrote: post #126
nomad543 wrote: post #79

Nobel Laureate Robert Laughlin Dismisses Quantum Computing> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYQSbV_BlI8

Haters gonna hate. John Martinis at Google did a very good job for silencing those deniers.

So anyone who questions quantum computing is a hater? Your argument reminds me of one interview where Elizabeth Holmes said everyone was a hater for doubting her. John Martinis didn't silence anyone, after decades, still there's no verifiable proof of quantum computing.

Re: Trump administration establishes $75M quantum computing centers

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Post by germinalphrase »

_-david-_ wrote: post #138
germinalphrase wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The explicit purpose of a uniform is to associate an individual with an organization (e.g. the Department of Homeland Security, the Federal Bureau of Prison, etc) that vests them with specific authorities - for example, the authority to detain and charge citizens with crimes. These actors in Portland do not wear patches, badges, names, or other identifying features that associate them with any authority. Camouflage c…

>The explicit purpose of a uniform is to associate an individual with an organization (e.g. the Department of Homeland Security, the Federal Bureau of Prison, etc) that vests them with specific authorities - for example, the authority to detain and charge citizens with crimes. Nice job changing the goal posts. >These actors in Portland do not wear patches, badges, names, or other identifying features that associate t…

> Nice job changing the goal posts.

Hardly. You contend that these actors are wearing uniforms. I argue that camouflage is generic and doesn’t serve the purpose of a uniform as it doesn’t indicate under what authority they serve.

> Are you sure? I have heard there actually are badges on the uniforms. I have only seen pictures and videos on my phone so I could not tell personally if that is the case.

It is being widely reported as such, yes. Additionally, new federal legislation has been put forward just in the last week to require federal officers to wear identification in the future.

> Anybody can buy a fake police uniform and badge as well. Amazon has multiple for cheap. I doubt I would know a real police uniform from a fake one.

This is precisely my point.

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