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IBM looking for 12 years’ experience in Kubernetes administration

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Re: IBM looking for 12 years’ experience in Kubernetes administration

#131
These discussions go alongside MacBook trackbar discussions in my mind. Everyone has stories of clueless recruiters. It’s sad. I also interview about 1 utterly unqualified candidate per month at a big tech co that has this pretty well streamlined. There is need for filtering. That’s what recruiters are paid for, and it’s not at all surprising that they’re terrible at it.

It seems to me a real licensing process with GRE style in person exams is needed to solve this problem.

Maybe we could even include sections on standards in the licensing process so I don’t have to spend my days fixing needlessly “creative” code.

Re: IBM looking for 12 years’ experience in Kubernetes administration

#132
post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I get that she was actually a nice person who simply didn't know when .NET was invented. But I do not accept that she made a harmless and easily fixed error on the job requirements because of this. Frankly, I'm not that concerned that the job requirements demanded more years of .NET experience then it was possible to have. I am more concerned about all the other requirements that were listed on that job description w…

I agree and disagree with this. I do feel that everyone who has been around the block knows that job requirements are nice to haves rather than need to haves. Otherwise no one would get hired. On the other hand, I do think there are issues with how recruiters use descriptions that imply expectations that candidates have certain qualities like obsession with coding outside of work, being a tech bro, etc. And I do thin…

The problem is when resumes get filtered into trash because the computer determined that you don't fulfill the stated requirements (no matter how silly). Which is a common practice these days, especially in hiring agencies who are hired to do pre-screening of candidates for a company.

Add the outright dishonest recruiters ("Oh don't worry about that ultra short start date, I have only put that in there so that people apply faster!" - one 20something HR dude trying to rope me into a BS job ...) to the mix and then companies are wondering why they "can't find talent" and why skilled people have difficulties to find jobs.

Re: IBM looking for 12 years’ experience in Kubernetes administration

#133
post #22

> I saw a job post the other day. > It required 4+ years of experience in FastAPI. > I couldn't apply as I only have 1.5+ years of experience since I created that thing. https://twitter.com/tiangolo/status/1281946592459853830

The only thing I don't like about it is how every line in this tweet ends in a 'fitting' emoji I'm not even that old (born in the 80s), but is that the style adults use now?

I found myself stopping after each line trying to understand the inscrutable images. A tie I get, as it's related to business. The nervous laughing face and recycling symbol are beyond me.

Re: IBM looking for 12 years’ experience in Kubernetes administration

#135
I wonder how this squares with job application disclaimers that try to convince you that:

a) You must not apply unless you meet all of the minimum prerequisites as stated on the listing

b) Lying in any way on the form is tantamount to committing a felony

If IBM realizes their mistake and corrects the listing, are they obligated to immediately reject all of the previous applicants who knowingly submitted false information on their application because the claim was, by definition, impossible?

Re: IBM looking for 12 years’ experience in Kubernetes administration

#136
post #22

> I saw a job post the other day. > It required 4+ years of experience in FastAPI. > I couldn't apply as I only have 1.5+ years of experience since I created that thing. https://twitter.com/tiangolo/status/1281946592459853830

This happened to me - got a call from a recruiter who said client needed 10 years. I replied 'I was a teenager back then' to which she said 'so you don't have enough experience?'. I responded 'Well I helped create the thing, it hasn't been around 10 years'. Silence followed, I was thoroughly dis-interested after that.

Re: IBM looking for 12 years’ experience in Kubernetes administration

#138
post #22

> I saw a job post the other day. > It required 4+ years of experience in FastAPI. > I couldn't apply as I only have 1.5+ years of experience since I created that thing. https://twitter.com/tiangolo/status/1281946592459853830

The only thing I don't like about it is how every line in this tweet ends in a 'fitting' emoji I'm not even that old (born in the 80s), but is that the style adults use now?

They are annoying because they are facebook emojis and everyone is using them so you are linking them to contexts as you used Facebook. ie: the smile emoji is the most hated because it's kinda related to a fake smile/malice.

tip: stop using facebook.

Re: IBM looking for 12 years’ experience in Kubernetes administration

#139
post #22

> I saw a job post the other day. > It required 4+ years of experience in FastAPI. > I couldn't apply as I only have 1.5+ years of experience since I created that thing. https://twitter.com/tiangolo/status/1281946592459853830

The only thing I don't like about it is how every line in this tweet ends in a 'fitting' emoji I'm not even that old (born in the 80s), but is that the style adults use now?

I think @tiangolo likes to write like that, because there are other places in the FastAPI doc where he writes a "little story" (for instance to illustrate concurrency) and overuses emoji. I think it's just his style ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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