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Better than being ruled by communists, that's for damn sure. That was my experience, anyway.
I’m really curious: what is your experience that you’re referring to?
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From what I've heard almost everyone tries to get out, so I expect that the alleged hope of the CPC will come true. Nonetheless it is the right thing to do for the UK (where are the EU nations on this?), and exile doesn't have to mean abandoning the future of your birthplace. Hong Kongers might be able to achieve more for HK from the UK than under a Beijing cyber-dictatorship.
That's if their children don't assimilate and forget their HK identity. Children of Asian migrants in anglophone countries losing touch with their language and heritage is a very common phenomenon. Actually that raises an interesting comparison with the Tibetan diaspora that mostly left during around 1950. How many of their descendants growing up in India/US/UK still know how to speak Tibetan?
IMO assimilation isn't a bad thing, rather an indicator of a culture they bring with them which is accustomed to concepts of citizenry (or even more evolved) and the state (confucianism?).
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Not a very savory opinion to say "I wish colonialism had gone even further".
Supporting HK in gaining independence wouldn't have been an act of Colonialism. It would have been enabling self determination of a population. Colonialism is "the policy or practice of acquiring full or partial political control over another country, occupying it with settlers, and exploiting it economically." Giving the HK people independence is literally the opposite of colonialism. In contrast, the new law by by…
[1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Catalan_independence_refe...
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Is it surprising? UK has a problem with certain races coming over. What’s the difference between Syrian refugees and Hong Kongers? They would both be seeking refugee status essentially.
Educated, entrepreneurial, hard working, law abiding, socially conservative, respectful of their host. Who wouldn't welcome migrants like this?
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This is exactly why I'm trying to move out of the USA.
Why trying ? If it is so bad in the US, what is keeping you there? Many developed countries have relatively few immigration hurdles for US Americans to pass. UK in particular, European countries are lax in general in these regards (I live in Germany).
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I did say "try". Now we cannot even try, and stuff like this happens.
what would you expect it to even try to do with the UK present, given that EU foreign policy can be veto'ed by a single member state? several of which are keen to preserve or grow their CCP trade
Still, is it just a coincidence that Xi accelerated his plans shortly after Brexit? Between that and Trump, we are effectively isolated and fundamentally vulnerable to this sort of power play.
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Good. I don't care if it's a police car or someone's personal car or an empty cardboard box. If you're throwing around molotov cocktails you should go to jail.
To be fair though, even if you think people should go to jail for that (and I don't think that's an unreasonable view), surely you'd agree that a life sentence is excessive?
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Surprising isn't it, given how much of a driving force EU immigration was in the Brexit debate.
It kind of depends, immigration wasn't a big part of it from talking with many business partners. Many just dont like the idea rules are being made in Brussels.
Edit: FYI Dominic Cummings actually blogged about the important of Turkey to their success:
https://dominiccummings.com/2017/01/09/on-the-referendum-21-...