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Re: Ask HN: Have any of you moved back home to save money?

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Post by ghaff »

kazen44 wrote: post #121
bobbydreamer wrote: post #87

:) It gives me a smile and good feeling to read below comments. Seeing americans living indians life. Living at parents home, good old moms cooking and she's complaining about dad to you while cooking.

as someone not from the US, The american mindset of moving out at 18 seems bizarre to me. (also, moving halfway across a continent aswell). Most people in my country don't move out of their parents homes until their mid twenties (usually after university/military duty). Also, it might be my ignorance of american culture. But to me it seems america lacks a certain sense of regional culture that exists in most other pl…

There's definitely regional culture. The Deep South is very different from New England is different from the Bay Area, etc.

Re: Ask HN: Have any of you moved back home to save money?

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Post by djrogers »

kazen44 wrote: post #121
bobbydreamer wrote: post #87

:) It gives me a smile and good feeling to read below comments. Seeing americans living indians life. Living at parents home, good old moms cooking and she's complaining about dad to you while cooking.

as someone not from the US, The american mindset of moving out at 18 seems bizarre to me. (also, moving halfway across a continent aswell). Most people in my country don't move out of their parents homes until their mid twenties (usually after university/military duty). Also, it might be my ignorance of american culture. But to me it seems america lacks a certain sense of regional culture that exists in most other pl…

> Also, it might be my ignorance of american culture. But to me it seems america lacks a certain sense of regional culture that exists in most other places around the world

That is largely your ignorance (not in a bad sense - it's just that you aren't aware of it). Some cities in the US are like that - no regional culture - because they have so many people moving in and out from different places, and they are so physically massive (Los Angeles for example sprawls like few cities do).

Between the coasts though, there are tons of places with good sized cities, great community, and a strong regional culture.

Re: Ask HN: Have any of you moved back home to save money?

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Post by ProAm »

hguant wrote: post #105
georgewsinger wrote: post #101

I had to move from NYC to Oklahoma to save SimulaVR ( https://github.com/SimulaVR/Simula ). This was over a year ago, and I'm still here. Because of this I have saved an enormous amount of money (such that I'm still able to work full time on SimulaVR while I search for VC funding elsewhere). The other co-founder of Simula is also remote (in Germany). Since this was pre-pandemic, it's been very hard to explain to VCs…

>The groupthink there is also becoming unbearable I'm curious - do you mean groupthink in the governance/policy sphere, or in the groups of technically minded people working on the hard/interesting problems? Or little bit of both?

It's the people in the field. It's a huge technocrat echo chamber. Feeds off itself and produces a generally poor social effect. This is a good (comedic) parody of it [G].

[G] https://twitter.com/yayalexisgay/status/1249057146051821568

Re: Ask HN: Have any of you moved back home to save money?

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Post by fragmede »

kazen44 wrote: post #121
bobbydreamer wrote: post #87

:) It gives me a smile and good feeling to read below comments. Seeing americans living indians life. Living at parents home, good old moms cooking and she's complaining about dad to you while cooking.

as someone not from the US, The american mindset of moving out at 18 seems bizarre to me. (also, moving halfway across a continent aswell). Most people in my country don't move out of their parents homes until their mid twenties (usually after university/military duty). Also, it might be my ignorance of american culture. But to me it seems america lacks a certain sense of regional culture that exists in most other pl…

For a sense of the culture surrounding the move-out-at-18 thing. Look at the worse of America's response to the pandemic. Imagine someone like that is your parents. Imagine trying to have a healthy respectful adult relationship with them. While not all American's have a bad relationship with their parents, looking at the worse helps visualize the central theme of "freeeeeeedom!" that moving out at 18 represents. Then also, some parents choose to start charging their children rent to live there, often when they turn 18. If you've got to pay rent, living with friends your own age sounds enticing!

As far as local culture, there are regions (and stereotypes for them) in the USA; the West Coast, the South, New England, among many others. There's a large amount of homogeneity (eg the same supermarket chains; the same 3 choices for ISP) but also smaller regional chains that haven't yet been "bought out".

Re: Ask HN: Have any of you moved back home to save money?

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Post by spoiledtechie »

kamyarg wrote: post #106

This is maybe a bit too personal, but unfortunately I am not allowed to leave my country if I go back because of my mandatory military duty, the one which I do not plan to waste 2 years of my life on. I miss my family and the city in general, our orchard and the foodporn-quality fruits such as peaches with skin that peels just like butter, sometimes I just question if it is all worth it. And probably is, but it feels…

That country probably gave you the opportunity you have now. You might not think its worth 2 years, but the country does and everyone else in that country also did.

You should really think about going back and serving a country which gave you opportunities.

Re: Ask HN: Have any of you moved back home to save money?

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Post by yardie »

_dwt wrote: post #127
georgewsinger wrote: post #101

I had to move from NYC to Oklahoma to save SimulaVR ( https://github.com/SimulaVR/Simula ). This was over a year ago, and I'm still here. Because of this I have saved an enormous amount of money (such that I'm still able to work full time on SimulaVR while I search for VC funding elsewhere). The other co-founder of Simula is also remote (in Germany). Since this was pre-pandemic, it's been very hard to explain to VCs…

Is it possible that there are places in the United States which are neither the Bay Area, nor NYC, nor Oklahoma? Surely at least some residents of these places, if they exist, might in fact dispute the broad-spectrum superiority of our most culturally legible cities. Some of these hypothetical humans might even work more than 100 hours a week, perhaps even outdoors!

I've lived in a few countries and a many cities. Most of them would love to have the likes of a SV incubator/industry in them. And they will do almost anything to get it: grants, housing, tax credits. And nothing ever sticks. There are a few startups that found a comfortable niche in their small town or big town in small nation. But these are lifestyle companies, and little more than consulting firms. An outlier in a poppy field. A friend of mine just opened a local office in SF for a Florida based company. The talent wasn't coming to them and for what they wanted to do they had to go there.

Re: Ask HN: Have any of you moved back home to save money?

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Post by david38 »

_dwt wrote: post #127
georgewsinger wrote: post #101

I had to move from NYC to Oklahoma to save SimulaVR ( https://github.com/SimulaVR/Simula ). This was over a year ago, and I'm still here. Because of this I have saved an enormous amount of money (such that I'm still able to work full time on SimulaVR while I search for VC funding elsewhere). The other co-founder of Simula is also remote (in Germany). Since this was pre-pandemic, it's been very hard to explain to VCs…

Is it possible that there are places in the United States which are neither the Bay Area, nor NYC, nor Oklahoma? Surely at least some residents of these places, if they exist, might in fact dispute the broad-spectrum superiority of our most culturally legible cities. Some of these hypothetical humans might even work more than 100 hours a week, perhaps even outdoors!

College campuses. The Midwest had several large (student body and size) campuses with strong engineering departments.

Re: Ask HN: Have any of you moved back home to save money?

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Post by kamyarg »

spoiledtechie wrote: post #136
kamyarg wrote: post #106

This is maybe a bit too personal, but unfortunately I am not allowed to leave my country if I go back because of my mandatory military duty, the one which I do not plan to waste 2 years of my life on. I miss my family and the city in general, our orchard and the foodporn-quality fruits such as peaches with skin that peels just like butter, sometimes I just question if it is all worth it. And probably is, but it feels…

That country probably gave you the opportunity you have now. You might not think its worth 2 years, but the country does and everyone else in that country also did. You should really think about going back and serving a country which gave you opportunities.

> ... everyone else in that country also did.

They really don't, most of my generation and their parents do everything they can to avoid it, but that aside:

I am all fine with serving my country, I would love to go back for e.g. 2 month per year or biannual to teach what I have gained to the next generation at a high school or university whatever even village schools.

The problem is military is not the one I could be the most useful, apart from the ethical questions. And they don't give you a choice about how you serve your country.

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