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Re: GitHub is working on renaming default branch from “master”

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Post by salawat »

crocodiletears wrote: post #96
aespinoza wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am right there with you. The whole idea of "master" is not really based on the idea of slavery focused master. Master represents the final version of a component or software which ends up in production. It is the same meaning as an audio master ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mastering_(audio) ) If the word master is considered evil, then what would happen to a Master Degree ? or Dojo Master ? Words have different…

Looking forward to the 'mega-debtor' degree tier.

How dare you. People in debt should not be discriminated against you insensitive clod!

Platinum degree is a far more neutral term! Wait... No, my PC adviser has just informed me it is unethical to discriminate on the inherent values of precious metal...

Are you...

Excuse me, I did not mean to discriminate as to suggest there is a tier of metals of a higher desirability or intrinsic value than any of the other metals. All metals should be valued for what they are, and our language with regard to degrees should reflect that.

Therefore, the formerly oppressive Master's degree shall henceforth be known as the Bachelor's+1 and some research degree...

Wait...

No, I'm sorry. I've just been informed that due to the Bachelor's degreebeing based on a 12th century term, Knight bachelor, which implied a knight too poor or lowly to gather men...er... People! People under their own banner banner... We'll have to go with the Second Degree and Third Degree's respectively... Oh God, burn victims now? Gods above, wait, monotheists? I mean God... Wait... Then the polytheists, deists, and atheists.... Uhhhhh...

The Orwellian linguistic engineering rabbit hole is a deep and terrifying place it behooves no one to muck with. One can keep the line of those insulted going all day.

I however, have work to get back to doing.

Re: GitHub is working on renaming default branch from “master”

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Post by _never_k »

protomyth wrote: post #83
floatingatoll wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A small symbolic thing is still worth doing, even if it doesn't directly improve the lives of people.

No, no it isn't. If it doesn't actually help improve lives, its just an indulgence.

Props to you for committing to your austerity, but we're not all monks in cells.

Re: GitHub is working on renaming default branch from “master”

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Post by _never_k »

gruez wrote: post #18
programmarchy wrote: post #8

"main" does seem like an objectively better word to use. The definition fits better in almost every use case. May seem like a silly gesture to some, but imagine feeling an emotional trigger every time you had to use a basic tool for your job. That'd piss me off.

counterpoint: I'll be pissed off and emotionally triggered, knowing that they bent over backwards just to be "politically correct" or "progressive".

Serious question: you're not the only person in this thread who feels this, and I genuinely don't understand it.

Why is this so upsetting?

Re: GitHub is working on renaming default branch from “master”

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Post by crucialfelix »

crucialfelix wrote: post #79

I support changing master - slave. But the use of master here is from 5 b: an original from which copies can be made especially : a master recording (such as a magnetic tape) There is no implied slave. It's derived from masterpiece. Something that a master craftsman has created. Master has many definitions and usages. Master of a slave is only one minor usage. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/master

Apparently git did inherit master from bitkeeper which had master and slave (replica) repositories.

https://github.com/bitkeeper-scm/bitkeeper/blob/master/doc/H...

Re: GitHub is working on renaming default branch from “master”

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Post by protomyth »

_never_k wrote: post #134
protomyth wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, no it isn't. If it doesn't actually help improve lives, its just an indulgence.

Props to you for committing to your austerity, but we're not all monks in cells.

Austerity? Monks in cells? Really, none of that makes any sense?

Hell, switching your Amazon account to one of those smile accounts will do more good than signalling.

Re: GitHub is working on renaming default branch from “master”

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Post by _never_k »

crucialfelix wrote: post #79

I support changing master - slave. But the use of master here is from 5 b: an original from which copies can be made especially : a master recording (such as a magnetic tape) There is no implied slave. It's derived from masterpiece. Something that a master craftsman has created. Master has many definitions and usages. Master of a slave is only one minor usage. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/master

Github inherited it from git, which inherited it from bitkeeper, the DVCS that Linux originally used and the one that inspired git. Bitkeeper used a master/slave architecture that git dropped.

https://github.com/bitkeeper-scm/bitkeeper/blob/master/doc/H...

Re: GitHub is working on renaming default branch from “master”

#139

Post by gruez »

_never_k wrote: post #135
gruez wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

counterpoint: I'll be pissed off and emotionally triggered, knowing that they bent over backwards just to be "politically correct" or "progressive".

Serious question: you're not the only person in this thread who feels this, and I genuinely don't understand it. Why is this so upsetting?

...because this is slacktivism lite. Rather than addressing actual issues facing african-americans today, we're engaging in silly naming changes that will have zero impact on 99.9% (optimistically) them

...because I don't want to be paying the externalities (workflow changes, having to keep up with the new "correct" naming) caused by a game of "who can be the most woke" between a vocal minority of progressives

Re: GitHub is working on renaming default branch from “master”

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Post by _never_k »

protomyth wrote: post #137
_never_k wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Props to you for committing to your austerity, but we're not all monks in cells.

Austerity? Monks in cells? Really, none of that makes any sense? Hell, switching your Amazon account to one of those smile accounts will do more good than signalling.

>Austerity? Monks in cells?

You're complaining about indulgence! You're saying that this change won't help people as much as something else. This is a fair criticism. Changing some technical term is probably not a optimally utilitarian use of resources.

However, while you may be trying to live an optimally utilitarian life, the rest of us aren't. I can only speak for myself of course, but evaluating all my life's actions on only that axis is too strict for me.

But, like I said, if you want to do that: props.

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