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How the Magic: The Gathering Color Wheel Explains Humanity

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Re: How the Magic: The Gathering Color Wheel Explains Humanity

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Post by C1sc0cat »

aasasd wrote: post #88
mynegation wrote: post #33

Every time “Magic: The Gathering” is mentioned it seriously throws off my phrase parsing for like half a minute. What about “the magic”? What is “the gathering color wheel”? I wish “Magic: The Gathering” was in quotes.

By now I'm pretty sure that English-speakers are gradually forgetting what punctuation is. Quotes and commas are already basically dead—instead, we receive titlecase and italics, and convoluted stream-of-words sentences.

For short titles and short comments English-speakers should be able to parse quite well.

Re: How the Magic: The Gathering Color Wheel Explains Humanity

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Post by vertex-four »

anonymoushn wrote: post #62
platz wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

try your cedh deck in a casual game and let me know how it goes

That's definitely a thing. I usually try to avoid games where trying to win is frowned upon in favor of games that are enjoyable when everyone tries to win.

Generally speaking, in Magic, people try to win, but you're not going to be sinking hundreds of dollars into cards when you're just getting into the game and playing against other newbies, making it a self-regulating thing - you spend more money as you need to spend more money.

Re: How the Magic: The Gathering Color Wheel Explains Humanity

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Post by afiori »

twic wrote: post #115

Not the author's intent, but the descriptions would make fantastic mottoes for a totalitarian state: PEACE THROUGH ORDER HARMONY THROUGH ACCEPTANCE (of your place in society) PERFECTION THROUGH KNOWLEDGE (of the Party's teachings) FREEDOM THROUGH ACTION (go to work in the factory, that is the true freedom!) SATISFACTION THROUGH RUTHLESSNESS

the last one would be probably said in lowercase far from broadcast microphones

Re: How the Magic: The Gathering Color Wheel Explains Humanity

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Post by m12k »

js8 wrote: post #107

On some level, I love this, it's just wonderful, lots of neat diagrams and words and numbers that make intuitive sense. But "explains" is a rather strong word. It's pseudoscientific mysticism, in the spirit of Pythagoreans or Jordan B. Peterson. As long as we all understand this, good.

I approach this the same way I approach concepts like karma and reincarnation. Are they literally true, physical forces, laws or similar acting on the world? No, of course not. Are they useful metaphors to try to model and discuss tendencies and emergent phenomena arising from patterns in human behavior? Yes, often, if used with the right disclaimers and caveats.

Re: How the Magic: The Gathering Color Wheel Explains Humanity

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Post by mcv »

twic wrote: post #115

Not the author's intent, but the descriptions would make fantastic mottoes for a totalitarian state: PEACE THROUGH ORDER HARMONY THROUGH ACCEPTANCE (of your place in society) PERFECTION THROUGH KNOWLEDGE (of the Party's teachings) FREEDOM THROUGH ACTION (go to work in the factory, that is the true freedom!) SATISFACTION THROUGH RUTHLESSNESS

They have little to do with how Magic works out in practice, though:

WHITE: swarm everything with little guys

GREEN: trample everything with giant monsters

RED: burn everything

BLUE: twist everything beyond recognition

BLACK: keep dragging up old, dead stuff

There's certainly little harmony and acceptance in Green. It's the color of rapid growth, of everything can be bigger. The others I can kinda see if quint at them a bit, but not green.

Re: How the Magic: The Gathering Color Wheel Explains Humanity

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Post by notkaiho »

swebs wrote: post #125
notkaiho wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yet people heartily continue to believe in Peterson :D

What did he say that was false?

I don't want to derail the discussion with irrelevant material, but to suggest that eating a beef-only diet cures autoimmune disorders is utterly unsupported by medical science, for one.

Re: How the Magic: The Gathering Color Wheel Explains Humanity

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Post by gpderetta »

YeGoblynQueenne wrote: post #117
gpderetta wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Crucially, by design, no color is best Except for blue of course.

Right now it's green closely followed by white. Though I've been too busy to play in the last two months and have so far totally missed Ikoria, it's clear to see that Jamie Wakefield's favourite colour of magic has finally become OP just by the June 1st banned and restricted list: https://magic.wizards.com/en/game-info/gameplay/rules-and-fo... Three of the six cards (still) banned in standard are Green and two of the…

Oh yes green (and GU) has seen a huge boost in the last year of so. It was probably an overcompensation for what was perceived to be the weakest color. I expect white to go through a similar overcorrection in the next year of so.

Blue is still the strongest color in Legacy and Vintage I think, even if the last few sets had a huge impact.

Also, Oko and Uro are also blue.

Re: How the Magic: The Gathering Color Wheel Explains Humanity

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Post by NoOneNew »

swebs wrote: post #125
notkaiho wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yet people heartily continue to believe in Peterson :D

What did he say that was false?

Take responsibility for your actions.

Take care of both your mental and physical health.

Do something important with your life that's meaningful to you.

Respect yourself.

Life is bloody hard and you should be easy on yourself when you screw up. As long as you learn something from your mistakes and attempt to push forward again with new found knowledge, you're on the right path.

Clean up your room.

All of that is the utter nonsense Peterson spews out all of the time. None of that is useful or true. What a monster.

Re: How the Magic: The Gathering Color Wheel Explains Humanity

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Post by gpderetta »

TheDauthi wrote: post #40
GuB-42 wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It was definitely the case in the early days. It is evidenced by the "boons", cards that cost 1 and do 3 of one thing the color is supposed to do best. The white one, Healing Salve, is very weak, it has later been replaced by a strictly better card. The red (Lightning Bolt), green (Giant Growth) and black (Dark Ritual) are very solid cards and were seen in most decks of their respective colors in the early days of Ma…

Growth still gets printed pretty frequently. Pretty sure it's legal in standard right now. But don't forget all of the other broken stuff blue had from the start: timewalk and timetwister, to name two. We old people used to joke that the most powerful card printed of all item was "island".

I think it hasn't been playable outside of limited for a very long time though.

Re: How the Magic: The Gathering Color Wheel Explains Humanity

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Post by mcv »

brandnewlow wrote: post #101
atemerev wrote: post #96

I respectfully disagree. Green in MtG is about growth, power of life, abundance (not harmony). Black is about destruction, death and suppression (not “individualism” or “at all costs mentality”). You can build your strategy on all these.

Sounds like you started playing in the 90s! Wizards has sanitized Black a good deal since then to being less METAL and more META.

It's still mostly about dragging up dead things from the graveyard.
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