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Re: Twitter tags Trump tweet with fact-checking warning

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Post by odkamkfn »

fzeroracer wrote: post #108
aaaaaaaaaaa10 wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know for a fact my aunt mails in ballots for her husband, her father and her mother. Claiming that there is no mail-in voter fraud among 300 million Americans is quite absurd in my opinion.

So assuming this is true, two things. One, why haven't you reported your aunt for voter fraud? Voter fraud is a very serious issue and it seems to me that you're letting a criminal go free. This can be easily verified by telling the government and having the three others confirm who they voted for. For two, if she is mailing in the ballots, then is she forging their signature as well as collecting their SSNs? Or are…

Snitches get cross stitches. Don't report your family - talk to them.

Re: Twitter tags Trump tweet with fact-checking warning

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Post by fzeroracer »

2019-nCoV wrote: post #101

This is not going to end well. Every single aspect of life that cannot be rigorously tested under the scientific method is destined to become a partisan topic. There is no way to be sure if mail-in ballots will be anything less than substantially fraudulent.

Considering mail-in voting has been put through the ringer in multiple states (both red and blue!) with very little voter fraud statistically, it seems like these days the partisan topics consist of reality vs Trump.

This is something that's been statistically proven to work and yet the amount of people I see leaping to his very ignorant claims of this topic here is disappointing. Can you back up the claims that mail-in ballots will be substantially fraudulent at any level beyond baseless speculation?

Re: Twitter tags Trump tweet with fact-checking warning

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Post by CapricornNoble »

RobAtticus wrote: post #49
jerkstate wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> In May 2014, DeMuro inflated vote totals by adding 27 fraudulent ballots in the primary election, 40 votes in May 2015, and 46 in 2016, according to court documents outlining the scheme and the charges against him. > While those numbers may seem small, prosecutors said, they made up a significant percentage of the total votes cast at the polling place. In 2014, 118 total ballots were reported there, which means tha…

Yes but the topic is mail-in voting fraud. He was physically at the polling place and stuffing the box. It's fraud and should be punished, but it has nothing to do with mail-in voting fraud.

The example is a demonstration that a member of the opposition party to the incumbent President was both willing and able to commit election fraud for even a paltry sum of money in a local election. The implication is that election officials from that party cannot be trusted to NOT fraudulently influence the election. If they are willing & able to exploit System A, then they are probably WILLING to exploit System B, and it's likely they are ABLE to exploit System B because its security sucks.

Basic risk management principles would lead to implementing controls to either reduce the probability of the risk, or reduce the effective impact of the risk. The US has been stuck doing neither since the Bush/Gore election.

Re: Twitter tags Trump tweet with fact-checking warning

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Post by root_axis »

godelski wrote: post #121
root_axis wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This problem is turtles all the way down, there is no trusted apolitical arbiter of the facts, you either believe twitter is making a best-effort attempt to curtail misinformation or you believe they're exercising a political agenda under the guise of curtailing misinformation.

The issue here is that the people that already believe in these sources already think the president is lying. On the other hand, people that think the president is telling the truth aren't going to believe those sources. So what does this do? Are there that many people on the fence? Because everyone I know in the middle already thinks this is laughable (Utah votes by mail and every Republican in CA I know votes from…

Twitter's rebuke has consequences in the larger culture war battle being fought online, it's an acknowledgement from twitter hq that they view Trump's behavior as a violation of twitter rules even though they are not willing to go so far as to ban or suspend him since he's the president. This is as much about PR as anything else since twitter has come under increased pressure to take some kind of action with regard to Trump's conduct on the site.

Re: Twitter tags Trump tweet with fact-checking warning

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Post by 2019-nCoV »

fzeroracer wrote: post #132
2019-nCoV wrote: post #101

This is not going to end well. Every single aspect of life that cannot be rigorously tested under the scientific method is destined to become a partisan topic. There is no way to be sure if mail-in ballots will be anything less than substantially fraudulent.

Considering mail-in voting has been put through the ringer in multiple states (both red and blue!) with very little voter fraud statistically, it seems like these days the partisan topics consist of reality vs Trump. This is something that's been statistically proven to work and yet the amount of people I see leaping to his very ignorant claims of this topic here is disappointing. Can you back up the claims that mail…

Has there been a more polarising American politician than Trump in living memory? Voter fraud is not a constant. It is completely dynamic. Just his Tweet completely changes reality. Now, if it does proceed, we'll see increased scrutiny of mail-in voting, which in turn would reduce fraud. This would then be cited by opponents as another counter-example, when in reality the increased scrutiny was the catalyst.

Re: Twitter tags Trump tweet with fact-checking warning

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Post by odkamkfn »

Rebelgecko wrote: post #28

Trump is currently tweeting about how this warning message is taking away his 1st amendment rights to free speech, and constitutes interference in the 2020 election. Can't wait for these tweets to get the same warning. [1]: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/12654275381401886...

Where does he mention the 1st amendment?

Re: Twitter tags Trump tweet with fact-checking warning

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Post by daenz »

bosswipe wrote: post #130
Shish2k wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Alas, this is what The People democratically voted for; and with our current voting system, the will of us 49% who don’t want to hear it counts for nothing u_u

53.9% of us voted against Trump.

of the 58% of eligible voters who actually voted.

Re: Twitter tags Trump tweet with fact-checking warning

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Post by ewwhite »

Hankenstein2 wrote: post #45
godelski wrote: post #24

I think one of the issues with this will be how it is linking the correct information. I like the little inclusion before tweets, but there's no sources on them. Then when you scroll down on the tweets I see them in this order: The Hill, WaPo, CNN, a CBS News reporter, a Fortune Magazine reporter, a Vox reporter, Sr Political Reporter for Huffington, ACLU Nebraska, a CNN political correspondent. The issue here is tha…

The problem for me, someone who really wants to be in the middle, is that the only conservative leaning news outlet that I believe (no facts in my reporting) does fact based reporting is the Wall Street Journal. If I want news with data and facts I have to go with the "left" leaning papers. The Washington Examiner and Fox News have been burning their credibility on a daily basis.

Why do you want to be in "the middle"?

Re: Twitter tags Trump tweet with fact-checking warning

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Post by smitty1e »

Barrin92 wrote: post #3

If we're honest a lot of his tweets violate twitters content policy and they do so blatantly. I wonder if they'll ever have the guts to straight up hand him at least a temp ban.

Trump short-circuits the media gatekeepers using Twitter.

But the relationship is symbiotic. While Trump loves him some free platform, he's a big traffic draw.

So, if Twitter wants to be too uppity, Trump could, for example shift operations to Gab.

I submit that a key point here is THERE IS NO CORRECT ANSWER to the policy question.

If one engages in social media, one's feelings will be hurt.

This is no blank check to be a dick. Criticisms of Trump cheapening the office are trivially shown correct. Vote accordingly this November.

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