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Re: Coming to Chrome: a new way to use tabs

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Post by maciekmm »

OJFord wrote: post #107
maciekmm wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Shameless plug. I made the ContainerTabsSidebar firefox addon[0], which is inspired by the TST. It groups tabs based on firefox privacy containers, which means every container has an isolated cookie store. I'm a tab hoarder and developed it to work for such "use-case". It's very similar to the groups presented, but displays tabs vertically. [0]: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/container-tab...

Is there any other restriction/benefit in containers? I use the 'first party isolate' config option, and never really need e.g. different accounts logged in to same site, so as far as I'm aware there's no point? I recently switched from an unmaintained tabs sidebar to 'Sidebery' which is quite nice in an 'overriding UI like it's made by Adobe' sort of way, which has got me using trees, and even tried containers (sinc…

With the first party isolate, mechanisms such as oAuth would not work. So the containers are less restrictive, but still allow you to have two sites with the same cookie context.

Re: Coming to Chrome: a new way to use tabs

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Post by aloisdg »

alwillis wrote: post #85
akersten wrote: post #23

Neat, and works well for the toy example with 4 tabs open. I don't really think it would work as well for the "tab collectors" as they think. They seem to be aware of this too, since none of the screenshots in the post have anywhere near what I would consider a significant amount of tabs open. I use the tree style tab extension on Firefox[0], which I cannot live without. Horizontal tabs become useless after about 15…

The first browser I used with vertical tabs was OmniWeb, which originally ran on NeXTSTEP back in the day. Fast forward to now; it’s still available for macOS 10.12+ from the Omnigroup: http://omnistaging.omnigroup.com/omniweb?pk_vid=258c19059951...

Opera did it too mid-2000. Maybe earlier. I dont know. I was too young before to remember.

Re: Coming to Chrome: a new way to use tabs

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Post by lord_erasmus »

I feel like the hidden that feature that allows you to select and move multiple tabs is severely underrated. I'm a tab hoarder but not disorganised, I tend to work on multiple things at a time and what I'll do is everytime there's more than 4-5 tabs on a specific project, I'll move them to a new window and hide the rest. That way, I'm not bothered by the other subjects in my view and the current "workspace" is still easily manageable. I fail to see the point of this change this late in the browser history as it would surprise me if powerusers didn't already have their own way of managing tabs

Re: Coming to Chrome: a new way to use tabs

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Post by padenot »

colordrops wrote: post #77
akersten wrote: post #23

Neat, and works well for the toy example with 4 tabs open. I don't really think it would work as well for the "tab collectors" as they think. They seem to be aware of this too, since none of the screenshots in the post have anywhere near what I would consider a significant amount of tabs open. I use the tree style tab extension on Firefox[0], which I cannot live without. Horizontal tabs become useless after about 15…

I would agree with you here. I don't understand why tabs, bookmarks, and history aren't just merged into one feature. History needs to be less ephemeral, but more easily editable. Then you could add some sort of ctrl-p style fuzzy search that includes both url and content, as well as a knob that dials up or down the number of visible tabs/history items, and they'd fall off with disuse. You could pin some to the top o…

> Then you could add some sort of ctrl-p style fuzzy search that includes both url and content.

Try focusing the URL bar in Firefox and prefixing your query with '%'. https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/address-bar-autocomplet... shows more prefixes like this. It does not search the content of the page, but is super useful still.

Re: Coming to Chrome: a new way to use tabs

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Post by kevingadd »

Zancarius wrote: post #41
nieve wrote: post #22

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Don't feel too bad about your tab hoarding, I'm at 3 windows with 4630 tabs and I'm pretty sure I'm closer to a stress test than a user. Chrome can't function with 1/20th of mine and Firefox runs smooth and fast. Restarting with loading all the session data takes seven or eight seconds total. It can't just be the different multi-process models so I'm pretty sure that the Chrome team can do better.

I think I found my kindred spirit! I have one Firefox instance presently at 3 windows and 3379 tabs and another with 10 windows and somewhere north of 2300 tabs. I wouldn't dare do this under Chrome/Chromium. On my system at least, I've noticed that Firefox does get less responsive around 8000+ tabs. Mostly it's just the start up that complains. Sometimes I'll get annoyed and mass-bookmark/close tabs (filed under dat…

Session restore is definitely not designed to scale up that high. I'm impressed that it works. If you're curious you should take a look at the session store data in your profile directory sometime, it's probably at least 50mb of javascript-encoded tab info and browsing history. (Yes, your per-tab navigation history is stored too)

Re: Coming to Chrome: a new way to use tabs

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Post by Vinnl »

As a hoarder, tabs act somewhat as low-effort bookmarks: instead of having to explicitly bookmark sites, I have to explicitly not-bookmark them (i.e. close the tab). In other words: "organising" my tabs is the default and takes no extra effort. Additionally, when I'm done with something, cleaning up is really low effort as well: I close several tabs in a row, and can relatively quickly judge which ones to close.

In other words: this just seems way too much effort for me...

Re: Coming to Chrome: a new way to use tabs

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Post by yoavm »

Shamesless plug: I've built a tiny WebExtension for Firefox that I believe is the fastest way to jump between tabs ever, with the keyboard. It's for those of us who have more than 15 tabs open.

You basically click a one key, and then fuzzy search through your tabs until there's only one option left, and the tab opens. Alternatively you enter the tab number and it opens. It's probably one of my most useful weekend projects.

https://github.com/bjesus/teleporter

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