Can electric cars on the highway emulate plane-to-plane refueling? • Hacker News Board

Re: Can electric cars on the highway emulate plane-to-plane refueling?

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Post by vonmoltke » Thu, May 07, 2020, 8:41 PM UTC

goodcanadian wrote: post #127

vonmoltke wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Fast-charging takes somewhat longer than filling with gasoline/petrol, but I usually also want a bathroom and coffee break. It's more than "somewhat". I can put over 400 highway miles of range into my vehicle in five minutes with a gas pump. It takes 30 minutes to put half that into an EV. I don't want to stop for half an hour every 200 miles. > This is not idle speculation. I own an electric car. Furthermore, the…

I don't want to stop for half an hour every 200 miles. You might be able to do a gas stop in 5 minutes. I'm willing to bet that you can't do a gas stop and pee in that time. Two hundred miles is probably 3 hours of driving, so I am also willing to bet you want at least a coffee. Add five minutes (or more if you have to move your car). If you add in a snack, your total time will probably be around half an hour. A meal…

When I drive long distance, particularly by myself, I typically get on the highway with a full tank and pull off when my low fuel light comes on. Depending on traffic conditions, this is typically between five and six hours. At the end of that I don't mind stopping for half an hour or more, but that requires far more than 200 miles of range.

When I do stop in the middle for coffee and a leak, it's rarely more than 15 minutes total off the highway (unless the service is slow).

Re: Can electric cars on the highway emulate plane-to-plane refueling?

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Post by ntsplnkv2 » Thu, May 07, 2020, 11:10 PM UTC

hinkley wrote: post #117

ntsplnkv2 wrote: post #95

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Not everyone wants to take an hour long break every 400 miles. On a 2000 mile trip, that's an extra 5 hours of travel time. I'd much rather be at the beach than at Rest Stop X in the middle of nowhere for an hour.

Are you gonna drive 2000 miles straight through or get a hotel? I did 1800 miles straight through twice, once with three drivers and once with five and both were pretty rough. Would not repeat. Almost had a driver fall asleep at the wheel the second time and I didn’t get to nap after my last turn at the wheel because of it. If you’re doing it alone, subtract an hour a day for hotels. If you are with a group, then I t…

You're missing the point.

For the MOST EXPENSIVE electric vehicle, that probably will not actually get the rated 400 mile range, I have to spend an hour+ to get a full charge to go the full capacity. Now, we need to split up long road trips even more. Better hope that hotel has a recharging spot. If not, more wasted time.

Or I could just buy a corolla for 20-50% the price, get insanely good gas mileage, fill up when needed in under 5 minutes (enough for a bathroom break).

Electric cars don't ever come close to paying for themselves. That's why you only hear about these cars on HN or in SV - only rich people can afford them and their inconveniences.

Re: Can electric cars on the highway emulate plane-to-plane refueling?

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Post by tdhoot » Mon, May 18, 2020, 3:20 AM UTC

lmilcin wrote: post #128

tdhoot wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can I go from my house to my friends house using only rails? My house to the supermarket? Not all pairwise points are connected by rails, while they generally are by roads.

The post is about long distance travel.

My point still applies.