The crash of the global flower trade

Post by Nasrudith » Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 2:09 AM UTC

kuu wrote: post #17

Arctic_ wrote: post #10

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Not really. The response from the Dutch government was that they did want to help, but did not want to hold the responsibility for paying back the loan from the countries. Which would have been the case with Eurobonds. Instead, they wanted to help but had some financial reform obligations tied to it, which Italy and Spain were not happy with.

Not really. "Mr Hoekstra also infuriated some of his finance minister colleagues this week when he suggested that Brussels “investigate” why some economies did not have the fiscal headway to fight a downturn — a veiled dig at Italy and others for failing to reform in benign times. An EU diplomat quoted by Volkskrant described the slight as a “middle finger to the south”."

Post by notechback » Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 6:13 AM UTC

Mengkudulangsat wrote: post #3

Cut flower export sounds like climate travesty; they are not essential, they are fragile (requiring energy-intensive cold chain logistics and air-freight) and after all that effort... they have a shelf-life of a week. If there is an industry that should be strictly localized, it's this one.

Post by dang » Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 11:50 PM UTC

kuu wrote: post #8

I'm really sorry for the Dutch but their response to the crisis to Italy and Spain has been: "you should have saved some money!". I hope now they realize this crisis affects all in one way or another, either with direct deaths or with indirect sales crash, which can translate also into deaths. It's really hard for me now to feel pity for flowers when they didn't care about people dying...

Post by Razengan » Fri, Apr 24, 2020, 7:45 AM UTC

Balero wrote: post #59

crispyporkbites wrote: post #29

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When has it ever been fine to throw virgins into volcanoes? And slavery has always been opposed by huge numbers of people, theses things have never been considered "fine" or comparable to having flowers in a vase.

Whilst I agree with your general point, some of what you said isn't quite right. Human sacrifice has a long history. Though it was, as far as I'm aware, a rare and drastic thing to do. For example there were a few instances in classical Roman history when human slaves were sacrificed. This was done in very dire situations, think pandemic or important battle, and often in earlier Roman periods. It was also actually qu…