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The Decline of Usability

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Re: The Decline of Usability

#131
I wish they would use more words in menus instead of icons. I built this wonderful capacity to read quickly, I scan a list pretty quickly, some interpretation is necessary, but some icons are really obscure/vague.

And if I have to click more than once to find a scroll bar because it was so small I missed, then the gui is doing it wrong.

Re: The Decline of Usability

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there a sane mode or config for vanilla Ubuntu 18.04? I'm considering upgrading from my trusty old 16.04 LTS (both home and office laptops) and I dread the usual pointless UI changes that come with all the reasonable bugfixes/improvements.

I think Xubuntu is a good alternative. XFCE doesn't have as much eye candy, but it certainly surprises me far less and usually is very pleasant to work with.

I used Xubuntu for a number of years and it's a great lightweight environment overall. The main problems that I experienced with it are that it's handling of hot-plugging multiple displays (especially in between sleep states) has always been poor and crashy.

And I like the cohesiveness and integration of GNOME, although I had to do a hell of a lot of customization to mold it into something I could tolerate.

Re: The Decline of Usability

#134
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I had some reflexive reaction of wanting to disagree because there are also a lot of things that got better. But inconsistency? Hell yes. It feels like every company tries to run their own experiment, getting more and more erratic, and apparently all getting great feedback from their users (not sure if all the feedback systems are broken or something else is going on). Of course, Microsoft who in recent years started…

It seems to me like this article should be titled "Decline of UI Consitency". I think UIs have gotten better in general... but now instead of learning one difficult interface, users have to figure out many different interfaces. For power users who already had the difficult interface figured out, it definitely seems like a downgrade.

Partially I agree, partially for power users, partially for casual users. Sometimes this even overlaps. But a lot of designs nowadays are radically different which I’d say is just as much a problem for more casual users.

Re: The Decline of Usability

#135

I work on a project meant to sell a service and meant to manage the service being sold to the consumer. However, the button to actually buy the service is hidden by a scroll bar on all but the widest of screens. Unless you scroll the widget or have a 22 inch monitor, you will not see the purchase button. Why? The UI was designed in on a wide screen and we developers are just the implementers of the picture. UI is qui…

It drives me crazy that even though huge, wide computer screens are completely ubiquitous, there seems to be a whole generation of UX designers that only ever use (and therefore only ever develop) full-screen applications.

It's like they learned to compute on an iPad and then use the same mental model for every other device they encounter.

Re: The Decline of Usability

#136
I'm guilty of many of these. The reason is screen real estate. You want to have the most essential stuff on the screen, and not in hidden menus or popup windows.

And your app needs to adapt to many screen sizes, all from mobile, pad's, notebooks to desktop monitors.

Then it's much more efficient to use the keyboard rather then reaching for the mouse to click on icons you have no idea what they mean, or pulling on scrollbars.

Only problem is that if you design your app like Vim, you will have to put a lot of time into teaching users to use it properly.

Re: The Decline of Usability

#137
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Aww, he had to go after the Gnome stuff :/ Many a time I have spent over a minute decoding a Gnome GUI for incredibly simple applications. Is that a clickable icon? Why is that icon/menu option greyed out? Toggles, icons, buttons, toolbars thrown together with a rare tooltip. I fully agree they border on parodical. And yet I still use the gnome tools frequently, because they are useful. So in a way I do feel bad for…

Problem is, would that even help? What I want is what Gnome 2 already was. Their changes indicate they themselves don't want that anymore. Any attempts at voicing my concerns are met with disdain. What more can I even do as a developer?

> What more can I even do as a developer?

Switch to MATE: https://mate-desktop.org/

Re: The Decline of Usability

#138

It is quite sad how often I end up having to help older relatives with their computers on account of unintuitive UI. One memorable, recent example was my mother, who could not figure out how to get her GMail sidebar to un-collapse itself. Here's a screenshot of a collapsed sidebar: https://storage.googleapis.com/support-forums-api/attachment... and a screenshot of an un-collapsed sidebar: https://techcrunch.com/wp-co…

I just started a new job and they use Gmail for the email, it has been probably well over a year since I logged into gmail on web.

That’s side hamburger button throws me for a loop every. Single. Times. For some reason I keep thinking it’ll bring up the other gsuite apps, but instead the whole page shifts awkwardly aha then the sidebar disappears, “that was not what I was expecting” is my reaction every time.

Re: The Decline of Usability

#139
post #10

Ubuntu got worse at 18.04. Logging in on desktop now requires "swiping up" with the mouse to get the password box. The "swiping" thing is to avoid problems with unwanted activation when the device is in your pocket. It's totally inappropriate to desktops. Then there's icon mania. I've recently converted from Blender 2.79 to Blender 2.82. Lots of new icons. They dim, they change color, they disappear as modes change,…

> Logging in on desktop now requires "swiping up" with the mouse to get the password box. The "swiping" thing is to avoid problems with unwanted activation when the device is in your pocket. It's totally inappropriate to desktops.

Anecdote: The first time this happened, I had no idea why it wasn't working and naturally started clicking on things and pressing buttons to try to get it to do the thing. I thereby discovered that you can get the password prompt by pressing Enter.

Having used it this way for two years now, your description of this behavior is the first time I'm learning that it is also possible to do it by dragging the mouse upwards. The discoverability of this behavior apparently does not exist -- I assume if pressing Enter hadn't worked I would have had to use a different device to look it up on the internet.

Re: The Decline of Usability

#140
post #10

Ubuntu got worse at 18.04. Logging in on desktop now requires "swiping up" with the mouse to get the password box. The "swiping" thing is to avoid problems with unwanted activation when the device is in your pocket. It's totally inappropriate to desktops. Then there's icon mania. I've recently converted from Blender 2.79 to Blender 2.82. Lots of new icons. They dim, they change color, they disappear as modes change,…

Ubuntu got worse because of GNOME
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