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Re: Freenode IRC logging archive Echelog is shutting down

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Post by snvzz »

anthk wrote: post #130
snvzz wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On DOS, there's mtcp's ircjr. On AmigaOS, amirc (which many clients cloned the UI of) and wookiechat. Even kolibriOS ships an irc client. It's a nice, simple protocol that's human readable and imposes very little overhead on the clients.

I miss gopher support on kolibriOS, it's the brother "simple" protocol for hypermedia. No TLS support as IRC, but you can either: - use TOR over a gopher client. - use and promote Gemini in paralell. With Bitlbee and sacc(1) I can access even HN via Gopher and comment it on Telegram via sic(1). Magical and my setup could work even under a 286 with Minix2.

Gopherus will run on dos on a 8086. I believe it will even work with less than 512KB.

Re: Freenode IRC logging archive Echelog is shutting down

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Post by anthk »

snvzz wrote: post #131
anthk wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I miss gopher support on kolibriOS, it's the brother "simple" protocol for hypermedia. No TLS support as IRC, but you can either: - use TOR over a gopher client. - use and promote Gemini in paralell. With Bitlbee and sacc(1) I can access even HN via Gopher and comment it on Telegram via sic(1). Magical and my setup could work even under a 286 with Minix2.

Gopherus will run on dos on a 8086. I believe it will even work with less than 512KB.

Yeah, I know that. There are even some clients for the ZX Spectrum Next.

Re: Freenode IRC logging archive Echelog is shutting down

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Post by snvzz »

anthk wrote: post #132
snvzz wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Gopherus will run on dos on a 8086. I believe it will even work with less than 512KB.

Yeah, I know that. There are even some clients for the ZX Spectrum Next.

The spectrum not-next would be cool.

The next is very OP.

Re: Freenode IRC logging archive Echelog is shutting down

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Post by anthk »

snvzz wrote: post #133
anthk wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, I know that. There are even some clients for the ZX Spectrum Next.

The spectrum not-next would be cool. The next is very OP.

I wonder if an Altair could use Gopher over serialESP wifi.

Re: Freenode IRC logging archive Echelog is shutting down

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Post by paranoidrobot »

293984j29384 wrote: post #129
paranoidrobot wrote: post #106

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> You can't obviously connect an individual lurker to a log I don't think that's necessarily true. While I don't know if the IRC Server software supports it, there's no reason you couldn't encode some kind of unique tag into the stream of IRC messages sent to each client. Unless you were running two clients and diffing their logs you wouldn't notice. It could be as simple as seeing additional events, or modified whoi…

Yeah, that's not a real thing. You can't connect an individual lurker to a log.

What about what I said isn't possible?

If you control the IRC server, there's nothing stopping you from modifying the events sent to every client in a way that lets you identify that client.

Re: Freenode IRC logging archive Echelog is shutting down

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Post by ghostpepper »

heinrich5991 wrote: post #127
maccard wrote: post #122

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According to another comment in this thread, Freenode has 90k CCU, with hundreds of thousands over a period of a few months. The best number I can find for gmail is here [0], which shows Gmail had 72 million active users on android 6 years ago. Sorry to say but Freenode shutting down wouldn't even be a blip compared to gmail shutting down [0] https://www.nielsen.com/us/en/insights/article/2014/tops-of-...

I believe it was meant in proportion to the size of email vs IRC. > Sorry to say but Please just drop that prefix.

The scale requested was actually:

> On a scale of 'Rando County Legacy ISP-provided email service' to 'Gmail' is shutting down, where does this lie?

Re: Freenode IRC logging archive Echelog is shutting down

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Post by LinuxBender »

matheusmoreira wrote: post #75
rasengan wrote: post #11

I just wanted to take a moment and share with the HN community that IRC is definitely very alive and kicking! There are great channels for thousands of amazing projects, communities and teams spread across so many great IRC Networks, from Freenode [1] to OFTC [2], to Rizon [3], to DALnet [4], to tildeverse [5], Snoonet [6], Quakenet [7], EFnet [8], IRCnet [9] among other networks [10]. IRC is no longer difficult to u…

Can IRC be used through Tor and with end-to-end encryption?

Yes, IRC servers can support or enforce TLS for the transport and end users can use OTR (Off The Record) with many IRC clients. IRC uses TCP which Tor supports. There are IRC servers on Tor. Here [1] is an example of WeeChat + OTR. OTR is E2E encryption.

[1] - https://github.com/mmb/weechat-otr

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