Apple is developing a feature for using apps without requiring full downloads

Post by diggan » Sat, Apr 11, 2020, 3:06 PM UTC

kllrnohj wrote: post #123

simplify wrote: post #99

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> There's no reason to believe Apple could suddenly solve it in a few months if they just cared a little harder. No, they really could just solve it. Progressive web apps are so close to being useful. Apple just refuses to make them user-friendly to install. Just look at android for what's possible https://web.dev/progressive-web-apps/

> Progressive web apps are so close to being useful PWAs have been pushed since 2015. 5 years of perpetually being "so close to being useful." And that's despite Google's heavy promotion of them, including building an entire OS around them.

Post by code_duck » Wed, Apr 15, 2020, 6:04 PM UTC

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These shenanigans make me wonder why they don't just focus on making HTML5 apps a better experience. If they provided better widgets (e.g. including swipe gestures, which Angular/Polymer/MDL don't) and access to native hardware we'd be set. HTML5 is just 100X easier and nicer to program with than that abomination of Android Studio followed by aligning, keysigning, and other steps. The HTML5 hello world is Hello World…

You're free to make web pages if you like but despite your complaints, you yourself admit that its not a better experience and its not for lack of effort.

Post by code_duck » Wed, Apr 15, 2020, 6:08 PM UTC

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I have an app written in Swift and weights between 8-20Mb(depending on device and iOS version), which is not too far of from a typical website these days and the startup times are phenomenal(between 250-500ms, depending on the devıce). Writing in Swift is a delight and this is the feature I was dreaming about because having the user to install the App is not easy these days(100 impressions on Appstore Search would ge…

It's hard to imagine, but some DOS apps had I agree that your app is small and fast compared to what others are putting out there, but compared to what software engineering could do if people cared, this is still bloated and slow.

Post by code_duck » Wed, Apr 15, 2020, 6:10 PM UTC

Angostura wrote: post #103

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When you are used to desktop apps coming up and being useable literally in the next frame of you launching them, any interaction with mobile decices and webbpages with loading times everywhere is absolutely terrible. Makes me remember all the game consoles which would have loading time ms everywhere - it was terrible and frustrating when you were used to PCs

> When you are used to desktop apps coming up and being useable literally in the next frame of you launching them, I’m certainly not used to that. Mobile launch times are substantially faster than desktop in my experience.