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Eclipse Theia 1.0 – Open-Source Alternative to Visual Studio Code

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Re: Eclipse Theia 1.0 – Open-Source Alternative to Visual Studio Code

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Why not ? You have a problem with extra options that you don't have to use ?

But it's not really cause its using parts of vscode on the backend to even function, so it really seems like their just trying to make it seem like more than it is, which is their cloud-editor project.

> parts of vscode on the backend to even function

?

If you talk about extensions reuse, that hardly qualifies.

Re: Eclipse Theia 1.0 – Open-Source Alternative to Visual Studio Code

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I wouldn't trust Oracle. Is this going to be like VirtualBox which is "free" and "open source" except for the extension pack on the very same page that you can one click download? If anyone isn't aware, they track the IP address of that extension and if they can trace it back to your company they then come calling for money. It's basically a sort of litigation honey pot. Sure, it's all legal, but it's such a nasty da…

But just to be clear, Oracle does not control Eclipse IP.

You’re right.

It’s controlled by IBM, Fujitsu, Bosch, and Oracle.

Re: Eclipse Theia 1.0 – Open-Source Alternative to Visual Studio Code

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friendly reminder that while visual studio code is open source, the binary that you download from their website is not, and it's full of telemetry (and remember: telemetry ~= spyware).

consider using an alternative like eclipse theia or vs codium (https://vscodium.com/ - binaries built from the open source repositories)

Re: Eclipse Theia 1.0 – Open-Source Alternative to Visual Studio Code

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post #9

I was confused why the screenshot on the homepage ( https://theia-ide.org/ ) looked so outrageously similar to VSCode, so I checked the source. It looks like the editor widget is Monaco (from VSCode) so the text editing experience is entirely based on VSCode and Theia provides an alternative for the surrounding IDE stuff. Then they added a theme that imitates VSCode as much as possible to create the screenshot on the…

Dang: Can we actually change the link to this instead of a PR with loads of cooperate gibberish.

Re: Eclipse Theia 1.0 – Open-Source Alternative to Visual Studio Code

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post #9

I was confused why the screenshot on the homepage ( https://theia-ide.org/ ) looked so outrageously similar to VSCode, so I checked the source. It looks like the editor widget is Monaco (from VSCode) so the text editing experience is entirely based on VSCode and Theia provides an alternative for the surrounding IDE stuff. Then they added a theme that imitates VSCode as much as possible to create the screenshot on the…

We reengineered VS Code without altering the UX too much, because we love it as it is.

The problems we solved are: - making it easier to adjust beyond the standard extension model, which is great for language support but rather limiting for product designers - support browsers and on desktop (There is VSO but it is not open-source) - do all this under a vendor neutral open-source governance

Re: Eclipse Theia 1.0 – Open-Source Alternative to Visual Studio Code

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No comment on the authors other claims, but VSCode is not open source. "Code - OSS" is the open base upon which VSCode is built. VS Code's branding, telemetry and more are closed-source. See https://github.com/Microsoft/vscode/issues/60#issuecomment-1... for a full explanation.

So we talk the Installer, the brand/icon (which is good that it is strictly owned by one entity) and literally settings. These do not make the product less open source (I do not dare to use the term free). Linux is free software, however RedHat is not. You can do everything with the OSS version you can with the VS Code. However, there are extensions delivered in the Brand VS Code (Remote Server SSH/Docker/WSL) which…

For adopters, i.e. organizations that want to invent something new on top of existing open-source code, there is a huge difference between the VS Code-kind of open-source where the project is still fully controlled by a single vendor and vendor neutral open-source. E.g. Kubernetes wouldn't be where it is if Google hadn't put it into a vendor neutral open-source foundation.

You can tell from the many adopters of Theia, that there is demand for this. You don't see such downstream products based on VS Code, because of the lack of vendor-neutrality and because it was not designed to be customizable (beyond extensions). Finally, the fact that you can develop your IDE once and run it in browsers and as desktop app is important, too. VS Code doesn't do that directly as VSO is private code.

Re: Eclipse Theia 1.0 – Open-Source Alternative to Visual Studio Code

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If this is intended to be a VSCode alternative, where are the download area? Why the strong emphasis on cloud? A version 1.0 with no package released? need top run it on docker? I don't want to sound negative, I would really want to download it an try it... but from what I see in a quick glance, they want me to setup a whole cloud to use this, not how I envision an editor that is trying to take on the most popular ed…

Theia is a platform to allow building desktop and browser IDEs, not a product in itself. You can use it through gitpod.io on any GitHub or GitLab project.

The strong emphasize on browser/cloud is because we believe we have finally built a browser-based IDE that is as good as the most popular desktop IDE (VS Code). Having solved that cloud based IDEs are going to be the normal in a couple of years and will naturally complete our devops pipelines.

See also: https://www.gitpod.io/blog/continuous-dev-environment-in-dev...

Re: Eclipse Theia 1.0 – Open-Source Alternative to Visual Studio Code

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Haven't tried it myself but you can always go to the code and do it yourself : I think the confusion here is that https://open-vsx.org/ requires github which is normal, they can require whatever they want you can even go in and add something else => https://github.com/eclipse/open-vsx.org or roll your own : https://github.com/eclipse/openvsx

Why wouldn't you just say, "oops, I was wrong" instead of.... whatever you're trying to do right now?

open-vsx.org only requires login for publishers. Downloading / installing extensions is done anonymously.

Re: Eclipse Theia 1.0 – Open-Source Alternative to Visual Studio Code

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* Theia powers Gitpod's continuous development environments. You can try opening Theia in Theia. * Google runs Theia as the editor in the Google Cloud Shell, * Arduino's new Pro IDE is based on Theia , * SAP have replaced their Web IDE with Theia , * Arm's new mbed Studio is based on Theia, and * D-Wave Systems have adopted Gitpod which allows anyone to do quantum computing with Theia Seems it's really focused on run…

Please note that Arms's and Arduino's editors are not running in browsers (yet), but are downloadable desktop applications.

Re: Eclipse Theia 1.0 – Open-Source Alternative to Visual Studio Code

#140
post #77

I prefer QtCreator- it's not written in Electron.

Isn't QtCreator kind of too focused on Qt? I have used it and love it, but I was writing QML, not Python or JS for a web project. Have you been able to use QtCreator for more than C/C++ and Qt?

I use it for Rust!
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