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Anthony Levandowski ordered to pay $179M to Google

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Re: Anthony Levandowski ordered to pay $179M to Google

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Post by angry_octet »

nilkn wrote: post #115
archeantus wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

“ However, Levandowski personally filed today for Chapter 11 bankruptcy, stating that the presumptive $179M debt quite exceeds his assets, which he estimates at somewhere between $50M and $100M.” I’m not an English expert, but I am a native speaker. Although the above sentence is understandable, when you look at it closer the sentence structure is a bit wonky. Anecdotally, I don’t like starting a sentence with “Howev…

While that style might not be to everyone’s taste, that sentence definitely is grammatically correct and does not have any comma splices. Personally I don’t find it that awkward either.

Is is really meaningful, as a defence, to say a sentence is grammatically correct, if the meaning is unclear or the style is wretched?

Instead we should ask, if a sentence is unclear and wretchedly wrought, what purpose is served in pointing out its grammatical correctness? That is like admiring a two legged horse.

The author was no doubt under a tight deadline and just bashing it out with even less thought than I give to this post, but nevertheless has an MSc in Journalism (how is that an MSc?) and a BA, and can surely do better.

Re: Anthony Levandowski ordered to pay $179M to Google

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Post by mikejb »

zanek wrote: post #3

Levandowski just filed for bankruptcy saying he has less than $100M in assets . Does anyone know if he will only pay a percentage or is only delaying this by kicking the can down the road to another court ? I would be highly surprised if his employer (Uber) shouldered any of the this

Is his church bankrupt, too? I'd start there.

Re: Anthony Levandowski ordered to pay $179M to Google

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Post by mikejb »

dntbnmpls wrote: post #105
zanek wrote: post #3

Levandowski just filed for bankruptcy saying he has less than $100M in assets . Does anyone know if he will only pay a percentage or is only delaying this by kicking the can down the road to another court ? I would be highly surprised if his employer (Uber) shouldered any of the this

> Levandowski just filed for bankruptcy saying he has less than $100M in assets . Does anyone know if he will only pay a percentage or is only delaying this by kicking the can down the road to another court ? If he has less than $100M in assets, then he will only pay a portion of the judgment. If he, his lawyer and his accountant were smart, he would have moved most of his assets into trust funds, iras and other judg…

Levandowski started a Church, around the time shit started to fall around him. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of his money is hiding there.

Re: Anthony Levandowski ordered to pay $179M to Google

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Post by chongli »

jdhn wrote: post #69
mfkp wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ah interesting, didn't know about that. Seems like a easily exploitable loophole if so.

Maybe for cases like this that involve literally millions of dollars, but it really helps normal people from becoming homeless if they fall on hard times for whatever reason. Source: Family members went through bankruptcy in Florida and were able to get back on their feet much quicker because their house couldn't be seized.

And even in this case. Does Anthony Levandowski deserve to become homeless and destitute for what he did? No.

This is going to hurt him far, far more than what he did could ever have hurt Google. Yeah, maybe Google would have lost more than this on paper, but definitely not in terms of marginal utility. Google remains an extremely wealthy and powerful company and now Anthony is broke.

Re: Anthony Levandowski ordered to pay $179M to Google

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Post by cjblomqvist »

innagadadavida wrote: post #113

Are ML model parameters copyrightable? Should it be? To me, it looks like that is the only claim google has - rest of the algorithms are all open sourced already. Honestly, I don’t see much difference between this and the oracle java case. Google can’t have it both ways.

Let's not also forget trade secrets. You can just take secret information from one company to the next.

Re: Anthony Levandowski ordered to pay $179M to Google

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Post by wahern »

KKKKkkkk1 wrote: post #135

It feels perverse that when Uber's stolen technology killed a pedestrian, nobody was held liable and in fact no charges were pressed and no civil lawsuits were filed. But the person who stole that technology was indicted and is getting financially destroyed.

According to Wikipedia, the daughter and husband "quickly reached an undisclosed settlement" with Uber. Uber very likely paid out a large sum.

Re: Anthony Levandowski ordered to pay $179M to Google

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Post by cyphar »

wahern wrote: post #138
KKKKkkkk1 wrote: post #135

It feels perverse that when Uber's stolen technology killed a pedestrian, nobody was held liable and in fact no charges were pressed and no civil lawsuits were filed. But the person who stole that technology was indicted and is getting financially destroyed.

According to Wikipedia, the daughter and husband "quickly reached an undisclosed settlement" with Uber. Uber very likely paid out a large sum.

That covers the civil side of things, but GPs point about criminal charges still applies. Yeah, they might have signed an NDA but I don't think those can restrict what can be uncovered during discovery (but I could be wrong -- IANAL).
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